Hello to all of you dVersians! It’s Lisa here with Poetics. It took me a few tries to come up with something decent. I finally decided on a two-pronged discussion on edges and fringes with prompts coming out of it. Carol’s poem, “Knife-edge,” stuck with me. I started thinking what would it look like to be edgy with poetry. Doing a google search on it, I came up with many sites devoted to Sylvia Plath’s poem, Edge, which I haven’t yet read but it led me to a short essay by Claire Millikin about Plath’s techniques in it and her other poems that makes them work so well.
EDGES
Claire Millikin believes:
Any poem cannot be read all the way through, that is completely understood, until the circumstance of its writing, including the life of the poet from which it emerged, are set, done… The edge is where the poem shows everything that is left out of the poem.
As a reader, how do we proceed then? Will we have to fill in the blanks and hope we guess right? If we are the poet, how can we make ourselves understood as best we can while being un-”done”?
Describing Plath’s work as an example, Millikin says:
her work is open to the limit, open to the space outside the poem that has to show the words as cuts, edges in some other surface almost impossible to see in its completeness.
Does this mean we come closest to full understanding by looking at something “other” (than the poem) to orient ourselves? Must we create something other as the poet to be understood? Or can we do it within the poem itself?
Finally Millikin asks:
What is the word, the line, that cuts, that can show that edge?
I found two good poems that talk about the edge. The first context is guessable by the end of it:
Come to the Edge,by Christopher Logue
Come to the edge.
We might fall.
Come to the edge.
It’s too high!
COME TO THE EDGE!
And they came,
and he pushed,
And they flew.
The second one is more nebulous and the cuts seem deeper:
In human closeness there is a secret edge
In human closeness there is a secret edge,
Nor love nor passion can pass it above,
Let lips with lips be joined in silent rage,
And hearts be burst asunder with the love.
And friendship, too, is powerless plot,
And so years of bliss with noble tends,
When your heart is free and known not,
The slow languor of the earthy sense.
And they who strive to reach this edge are mad,
But they who reached are shocked with anguish hard –
Now you know why beneath your hand
You do not feel the beating of my heart.
– by Anna Akhmatova
What do we know about Akhmatova that lends itself to a fuller understanding of her words?
FRINGES
On to the other prong of this fork: fringes. Fringes can be nouns or verbs. As a noun, it’s defined as: 1) a decorative border of thread, cord, or the like, usually hanging loosely from a raveled edge or separate strip; 2) anything resembling or suggesting this, (e.g. a fringe of grass around a swimming pool); 3) an outer edge; margin; periphery (e.g. on the fringe of the art world); 4) something regarded as peripheral, marginal, secondary, or extreme in relation to something else (e.g. the lunatic fringe of a strong political party.) As a verb, it’s defined as: 1) to furnish with or as if with a fringe; 2) to serve as a fringe for or to be arranged around or along so as to suggest a fringe (e.g. armed guards fringing the building.)
Where an edge seems close and sharp, a fringe feels distant and less-defined. A boundary drawn with a thick marker is an edge. One poured in sand is more fringe-y. It doesn’t mean that the border is any less outlined but there is a feeling that fringe is easier to ignore or isn’t as important as an edge. Another perspective is that fringes might be approachable where hard lines not so much.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to spark on one of these paths:
1. Write a poem using the word edge;
2. Write a poem that keeps Millikin’s question above in mind.
3. Write a poem using the word fringe;
4. Write a poem from the fringe, however you define it.
Whatever you choose, please indicate your choice # somewhere on your post.
As a bonus challenge, please tell why you chose the one you did.
If you are new, here’s how to join in:
*Write a poem (in any form) in response to the challenge.
*Enter a link directly to your poem and your name by clicking Mr Linky below and remember to check the little box to accept the use/privacy policy.
*You will find links to other poets and more will join, so check back later to read their poems.
*Read and comment on other poets’ work–we all come here to have our poems read.
*Please link back to dVerse from your site/blog.
Sources:
Claire Millikin
Christopher Logue
Anna Akhmatova
Nick Verreo’s (top image with 3 models)
Jon Voight in “Midnight Cowboy”
msjadeli said:
Hello dVersians! It’s Tuesday and it’s time for sharing poetry and good conversation at the pub. Drinks and snacks are ready to be served. It’s sunny out there and each day a little less snow.
kim881 said:
Good evening all and hello Lisa! Thank you for hosting and for thinking up an interesting and challenging prompt. I seem to have got caught up in childhood memories. I hope that’s OK.
msjadeli said:
Hey Kim thank you, my pleasure and Welcome. Of course it’s OK! Would you care for a liquid refreshment and/or snack??
kim881 said:
I had a late dinner, so I’ll decline the snack. A virtual non-alcoholic cocktail would be lovely!
msjadeli said:
How about a glass of orange juice and sprite with a cherry on top?
kim881 said:
😊
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Hello Lisa, I think I need something light tonight … my poetry came from the darker side today, as evening is something I sometimes view as standing on the edge of a cliff….
msjadeli said:
Hi Bjorn. How about a glass of chilled sangria? Ooh can’t wait to read what you wrote.
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
It might be connected to a library somewhere
Ingrid said:
Hi Lisa and fellow poets! When I read ‘fringe,’ I immediately thought of hair. So I wrote a very short poem, as it has been a long day of poetry! A little bit of fun.
msjadeli said:
Welcome, Ingrid. Just read your poem and love its fringeness.
lillian said:
Thank you for hosting, Lisa! Fresh from many miles of trekking and reading down Memory Lane, I just put up my post but will wait until tomorrow AM, with coffee in hand, to do the reading. Would love an icy gin and tonic to refresh my spirits. It must be cocktail time, 5 PM, some place in the world? 🙂
msjadeli said:
Welcome, Lillian! One icy gin and tonic coming right up. You’re right, it is. Cheers!
merrildsmith said:
Hi Lisa and all,
Thank you for the interesting prompt!
I wrote about the phrase that popped into my head.
Fringe makes me think of the wonderful TV show and also “Surrey with the Fringe on Top.”
msjadeli said:
Welcome, Merril 🙂 You’re welcome on the prompt, glad you like it. I haven’t seen Fringe (yet!) Looking forward to seeing what you came up with.
ben Alexander said:
Wow; I haven’t started writing mine yet, but I have to say – this is a tough’y! This is very well thought through, Lisa!
I’m seriously impressed.
Yours,
David
msjadeli said:
Welcome, David. Care for a drink? We have a fully stocked bar. I’m sure whatever you create will be worth the wait. Thank you for the compliment 🙂
Devon Brock said:
Hey Lisa, thank you for the push to complete a piece that was languishing in the back of my mind for some time. I’m partial to Chardonnay at the moment, nothing fancy, just the house wine.
Also, if anyone in the dVerse crew is interested, there is a new biannual journal, Oracle Bone, that is seeking submissions for their Winter 2020 edition. It is always fun to help a fledgling endeavor get their wings. https://oraclebone.press/submit
D
msjadeli said:
Welcome, D! Glad to see you here and look forward to seeing what you wrote for the prompt. One glass of Chardonnay coming right up. Cheers!
Devon Brock said:
It’s always wine thirty some where. Looking forward to discovering some new work by folks I’ve yet to read.
erbiage said:
Nice prompt Li! Love me that Tull tune too. Hope all is well with everyone, I could use a nice ale please
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msjadeli said:
Welcome, Eric! Glad you like the prompt and the Tull. One Biscayne Bay Miami Pale Ale coming right up!
rogblog666 said:
nicely timed great prompt thank you. i have taken a step over the edge recently getting my first poem into print. will be back tomorrow to read those i have not seen yet
msjadeli said:
Rog, welcome and thank you. Congratulations on getting your first poem into print! That has to be a wonderful feeling. Here, have one for the road and have a good night 🙂
rogblog666 said:
Thank you
msjadeli said:
You’re welcome.
RedCat said:
Hi Lisa and everyone else. I think I’d like a glass of champagne to bubble my way away from the darkness this prompt and a conversation earlier today brought my writing into.
I just hope my sharing can help someone, somewhere just a little…
msjadeli said:
Welcome, Helene, glad you are here. One flute of champagne coming right up. Sorry things were dark for the write and hoping you have a peaceful resolution from the conversation. Your poem certainly connected with me and helped clarify some things that have been floating around in my head.
calmkate said:
interesting prompt Lisa … a watched a comedy the other day that put fringe dwellers on edge. Hadn’t thought to write about it but your unusual prompt compelled me.
a ginger beer and melting moment please?
msjadeli said:
Welcome, Kate! Ooh can’t wait to read what you wrote now. One tall ginger beer coming right up. Not familiar with a melting moment but let me check… ah here’s one! One melting moment 🙂
calmkate said:
lol two shortbreads joined by a middle layer of something sweet 🙂
msjadeli said:
YUM I love shortbread, I think I’ll have one too! Cheers!
robtkistner said:
Hi Lisa, thank you for hosting! This is a great prompt my friend. It’s sparking strongly for me. Well, I showed my sunnier side for yesterday’s prompt — so for balance, today I go dark and deep. Hope you like. Happy Poetics Tuesday everyone… 🙂
msjadeli said:
Welcome Rob! Glad you are here. I like it when you go dark. Care for a drink or a snack?
Ron Rowland said:
I need a shot to take off the edge, and then a little fringe for a chaser.
Great prompt. I wasn’t going to participate today, but the prompt pulled me in (or took me to the edge).
msjadeli said:
Glad you were pulled in, Ron. One shot for you, and because you didn’t say of what, let’s make it Jim Beam with a fringe of ginger ale as a chaser. Heading now to the poetry trail to see what you and Rob wrote.
Zelda Rene said:
Love the post and prompts, I may give it a whirl 🙂
msjadeli said:
Great, I’ll be on the lookout for what you come up with 🙂
Zelda Rene said:
Thank you my dear! The beginnings are arriving 🙂
Xan said:
A thoughtful prompt, Jade! I’ll try to get something in before the linky ends!
msjadeli said:
Hope you do, Alexandra!
Xan said:
Ended up with more tea! but the interesting thing is when I searched my work I’ve used “edge” a LOT, not just in the poetry, but also in the visual stuff.
msjadeli said:
Ah! Cool, Alexandra, glad you made that discovery. Tea (and edges) are always good poetry fodder 🙂
lssattitudeofgratitude said:
Thank you for the prompt Lisa. I was intimidated by your thorough information. I took a leap though and continued with childhood memories.
msjadeli said:
You’re welcome and very glad you took the leap!
msjadeli said:
Issa, I just read your poem and commented on it at your page. I see that you have the link in your post right, to the Monday Haibun’s Mr. Linky page, but you linked it in Mr. Linky to the Tuesday Poetics. FYI for next time, there is a different Mr. Linky for each dVerse prompt where you link your poem. If you want to link up to Monday’s Mr. Linky with your poem, that would be great.
lssattitudeofgratitude said:
I am still in the dark, but I shall try and abide by the directions. … Lauren
msjadeli said:
Lauren, every dVerse prompt has its own Mr. Linky that you plug your page link into. No worries, it’s fixed now 🙂
lssattitudeofgratitude said:
Thanks
pvcann said:
A meaty challenge for me, relished the paths Lisa.
msjadeli said:
I’m glad, Paul, can’t wait to read what you wrote.
pvcann said:
Very kind.
pvcann said:
I forgot to mention, what a fabulous choice of music, Tull is one of my faves.
msjadeli said:
I loved that ensemble and the setting. The old man still has it! 🙂
Linda Lee Lyberg said:
Hi Lisa and all- What an interesting prompt. I spent yesterday trying to get an appointment for my first vaccine shot. I have been trying unsuccessfully for weeks to book one online. Finally I took the old fashioned route and called the AZ dept of health. After 5 phone calls throughout various times of the day, I finally got an appointment for this Friday! I will try to work on something for you wonderful prompt today.
msjadeli said:
Linda! I admire your determination to get an appointment. Happy you’ve got an appointment set up. Do what you can with the prompt but no worries if you can’t manage it ❤
Linda Lee Lyberg said:
Done and posted!
msjadeli said:
Awesome, Linda! Heading over to the poetry trail in a few minutes to read 🙂
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Zelda Rene said:
Apologies for the length of mine 🙂 https://aonceandfuturerecluse.wordpress.com/2021/03/04/an-edgy-community/
msjadeli said:
No worries, Zelda. Thank you for participating!
Zelda Rene said:
Thank you So MUCH!!
msjadeli said:
You’re welcome 🙂
Zelda Rene said:
😊
kittysverses said:
Thank you very much Li for a wonderful prompt. 🙂
msjadeli said:
Kitty, you are very welcome. Just read your poem. Philosophy at its best!
kittysverses said:
Thanks a lot, Li. 🙂
msjadeli said:
You’re welcome, Kitty 🙂
kittysverses said:
🙂
nrk said:
Hi. I wasn’t sure what to write for this, then I remembered I had a previous work on ‘the edge’. It is one I thought could use a sequel, or even just more verses, so I used this prompt to kind of extend it with a micro. Thank you for that. I enjoy things which prompt me to develop my ideas & characters more. I write some fiction too, but it’s much more difficult for me than poetry is, so I like to practice as much story-telling as I can in my poems. It’s why I chose #1 as that direction gave me the opportunity to work with a thread of story.
msjadeli said:
NRK, I’m so glad you decided to participate in the prompt and really like how you went from constrained and limiting to expanding to embrace the universe. It is all about perspective isn’t it.
nrk said:
Thank you. I appreciate your observant feedback. I really like macro/micro poetics themes. I hadn’t thought precisely of how it played out in this work. Exactly. Perspective, experience & just being part of a big universe 😸
msjadeli said:
You are welcome 🙂
msjadeli said:
p.s. bonus points for explaining your reasons for choosing #1 🙂
nrk said:
Open-ended prompts such as #1 are my comfort zone. I just did a few with delimited word counts which I had never tried before. Also very interesting!