Welcome to Pretzels&Bullfights—After recently reading Charlie Zero’s story of being bullied, he & i began conversing about sharing his story here at dVerse during Anti-Bullying awareness month. . Growing up I was a late bloomer and an easy target for bullies. What you are about to read may not be easy to read, but it is Charlie’s story. If you feel moved by it or have your own story to share, we encourage you to write you OLN piece for tomorrow about bullying to continue to bring awareness to something that is often overlooked—
Hi! My name is Charlie Zero, a pleasure to make your acquaintance.
This is Anti-Bullying Awareness Month and I thought I’d write something about my traumatizing experiencing as a victim of bullying, and how others should not be victimized or fall into the hands of coward-wrenching bullies.
My message here is to help those who are in need of a friend, to give you someone who will listen, and help spread awareness of this epidemic of violence and abuse.
Thousands of people each other year; kids, teens, and adults, are being targeted by bullies/cyber-bullies. Reality still hasn’t sunk in; people refuse to open their eyes and realize how much excruciating pain victims like us are feeling at this very moment. Our wounds have left us with scars for life. There’s no repairing what has been done to us, our only recourse is to be strong, be positive, and encourage. Those who are still suffering should stand up to their Bullies and not be afraid; show no fear in the eyes of a Monster. My story is to let you know that you are not alone.
Home
As the stories are often told, from the beginning; It was 1986 that I was introduced to the world. Who knows when it occurs, but there is that moment when your parents witness your birth coupled with awareness of the outside world. Your Mom & Dad cry on how beautiful a baby looks for the first time, so fragile, so loving, & seeing their baby crying for no apparent reason. I’m sure none of us can recall such details of our birth, but sure enough our parents know full well the details of the birth process.
My own parents have tons of beautiful memories of me being a baby. My memories include my mom raising me, teaching me the values of life, to be respectful, and show good manners to people. My mom taught me so much and I love her for that; I took more of my mom’s side than my dad. As for my dad, he did care a lot about me, being playful, buying me toys; I guess being the only child in the house at that time does begin to show how happy everyone was.
My dad however; was always mean.
I do recall lots of incidents with him and my mom, even insulting my brother and sister. Dads are dads right? Wrong, my dad was brought up by his father who was a military solider from an earlier era. I was always curious as a child why my dad would be so mean to my mom, to me and my big brother and sister. My dad had his good times and bad times, what father doesn’t? If there was one thing my mom wouldn’t do, she wouldn’t let herself be bullied by my dad. When my dad would yell at her or anyone else in the family, she would talk back to my dad and set him straight. He would be quite or wouldn’t say anything for days.
An apology never left his lips; he would forget about it or pretend nothing ever happen. Sucks huh? Why are some people so prideful on not giving an apology; a simple sincere “I’m Sorry” would have been nice, but it never came. I guess his father would discipline him a lot and straighten him out like a good little solider.
Times were tough for my dad back in his days. Some people are who they are and they can’t ever change. Don’t worry everyone, I’m nothing like my dad, nor will I ever be like him. He’s a bitter old man, sour to life, and boring; still till this day he has never apologized when he yells at my mom and I.
Even my own sister at one point bullied me for a while. She has since apologized to me and she was truly sorry for what she did to me. See even people in your family can also become bullies. I love my sister a lot and since then she’s matured a lot throughout the years, having her own family, kids, and a wonderful brother in-law that I love so much. Forgiveness is a big deal to me and an important part in my life.
The Neighbor
I have an acquaintance that lives next door to me. I will refer to him as ‘The Neighbor; you’ll know why he is just an acquaintance in just a moment. My neighbor and I were close friends since we were little kids, always playing together, sharing toys, playing video games, and watching a lot of Saturday morning cartoon shows. He was always a good guy to hang around with. But as he got older his true colors started to show. He was the biggest bullies of them all, teasing and bullying me and his own cousin.
This neighbor of mine was pretty awful on us. I had thought elementary was the worst thing in my life time, but I was wrong. Middle school was a new level of Hell for me. My neighbor always had the nerve to make fun of my parents, making pervert remarks about the way they looked and he always made fun of the way I dressed, wearing the same clothes every day. He would slap me in the head make fun of my last name. His mom would actually join in on the teasing and bullying as well. Can you believe that? His own mother was teasing and bullying me.
My neighbor attended an all catholic school, he was always considered to be the popular kid in school at the time. He would always get the girls because they found him to be very charming, yeah right! Don’t flatter yourself kid. He had a lot of guy friends who worshiped him as if he was a god, they followed him around like little puppy dogs. They would always go over to his house to play video games, play sports, and watch a lot of porn.
When I would come home from school after getting teased and bullied all day, I would always go over his house and he would continue to tease me along with his flock of sheep. So the question that the reader is pondering right now is why did I go over his house knowing how much pain and hurt he caused me? I guess I felt he would someday say “I’m sorry” to me. Maybe even ask his forgiveness. But it never happened.
Till this day he hasn’t said he’s sorry or even apologized to me. So both middle school and coming home was just pure Hell, hurt and pain, day in and day out, with no escape from the torment. I’m going to confess something to you all. I wanted to commit suicide every single day. I cried every day not knowing when the pain and hurt would stop. I was thinking about killing myself everyday hoping I could end my life, hoping all the deep wounds and misery would help me embrace eternal sleep.
Salvation
Then something happened, something that would change my life forever, something that would give me hope. 1994 the year grunge died; and the mourning of our lost savoir Kurt Cobain. Then the rise of industrial music broke through the mainstream because of one man, Trent Reznor, of Nine Inch Nails saved rock ‘n’ roll once again. When a friend of mine introduced me to his music I was shocked and amazed, crying out in pure joy, I was feeling angry, hateful against the world, hateful against god, his music spoke to me like no other.
Nine Inch Nails, “The Downward Spiral” was an acclaimed shiny golden album that topped the charts at that time. I remember playing the cassette the first track “Mr. Self-destruct” hit me in the heart, something I’ve never experienced in my life. His lyrics, the sounds, and noises of that record were distorting a vision of me, a consciousness evolving from my own organic slime. I found a true hero, a father figure, a friend, someone who listens to me, someone who spoke for a generations to come. Trent Reznor literally saved my life. His music, voice, an angry sound changed me and his message saved me by preventing me from killing myself.
I had snapped back into reality and found my true self, slowly but surely. This time I had to hold my anger against those who have done me wrong. Finally, in 1996 Marilyn Manson released “Anti-Christ Superstar”, an album that would change a Goth culture forever. Both Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson changed everyone who looks different, dresses all in black, gay, transgender, weird, etc…Manson saved our miserable lives. After I graduated from middle school and I still had to deal with people’s bullshit and bullying.
High school…ah…the prison of all prisons. High school for me would have been a bit okay but the teasing still continued on and all the shit talkers would be such two-faced assholes! I took up a sport that everyone did and got popular in early 2000.
Skateboarding was my calling. I had been so afraid to start high school, because I distinctly remembered how Hollywood movies would dramatize scene on how high school life was. In reality it’s the opposite. High school is nothing but a collection of separate groups: you have your jocks, hip-hop people, casual, Goths, Skaters, taggers, gangsters, nerds, punks, metal-heads, posers, Geeks, etc. These groups are all based on politics; just like in prison you’re either with the blacks, whites, serial killers, Mexicans, Asians, crazies, sexual deviates, and many more. You find your cliché groups and you don’t venture outside to mingle with others.
Skating for me became something I loved doing, but not as much as I love writing poetry, which of course I started writing first and skateboarding second. I meet some cool friends, and I was amazed how much my new friends talked to me. I felt like I was part of the guys and felt right at home. Skating every day with my friends at the time was liberating, fun, and I had lots of good and bad times. I’ve had cool friends and of course backstabbing assholes, who I still hate very much, even today.
High school was just a confusing aspect of life; I had my fair share of times with my enemies threaten me and what not. In the end, I realized after graduating high school that I would no longer be seeing these old faces. That I would now start to dislike some old friends, holding on to fond memories with cool friends, and hate everyone else for what they said behind my back and for what they did behind my back. You realized in the end, who your true friends are and who you can truly count on that’s me, only me.
My Final Advice
Be good to others and you shall receive good karma in the future.
Let’s not discriminate against those who are different or look a certain way.
We are too fragile for this world; sometimes I feel like turning into a baby and climbing right back into my mother’s womb, stay there and not come out. Unfortunately, things aren’t that simple, it is what it is, and I’m here in this world. My advice to the bullies or were once bullies; if you ever raise your children the way you were or the way you are now– your kids will grow up to hate you.
Let’s not discriminate against those who are different or look a certain way.
We are too fragile for this world; sometimes I feel like turning into a baby and climbing right back into my mother’s womb, stay there and not come out. Unfortunately, things aren’t that simple, it is what it is, and I’m here in this world. My advice to the bullies or were once bullies; if you ever raise your children the way you were or the way you are now– your kids will grow up to hate you.
Friends share the same suicide
Suicide world!
We are the outcast – who you have tortured, laughed at, abused,
humiliated, dressed up like a clown-Christ,
and left us impaled on a cross for your amusement parks.
You’ve pushed us into a corner
where misery is our fate.
Let’s drown faith in Satan’s teeth.
We are the outcast – who you have tortured, laughed at, abused,
humiliated, dressed up like a clown-Christ,
and left us impaled on a cross for your amusement parks.
You’ve pushed us into a corner
where misery is our fate.
Let’s drown faith in Satan’s teeth.
Hope gets contaminated in a jar full of feces.
When my soul keeps on slipping away-
I know death became the voice of my trigger endless life.
I know death became the voice of my trigger endless life.
Can you taste the edges that bleed
from our painless scars?
Do you know what it feels like
to walk with your own casket?
Do you know what it feels like
to bury your own Eden heart on a grave?
from our painless scars?
Do you know what it feels like
to walk with your own casket?
Do you know what it feels like
to bury your own Eden heart on a grave?
Alone in this dead planet
and the pain that consumes me
makes our hate grow into fearless Monsters.
and the pain that consumes me
makes our hate grow into fearless Monsters.
Isolation is home to my imaginary friends.
You and I can share the same suicide,
share the same pills, share the same demons,
share the same overdose, and share the same cruelty that we’ve all endured for a long life eternity.
share the same pills, share the same demons,
share the same overdose, and share the same cruelty that we’ve all endured for a long life eternity.
I will leave you all with a final note:
“Death is an everlasting memory,
everyone will remember me, and I will be a legend, a poet, and a lonely voice.
Death is temporary –
Just like a growing flower that dies instantly.”
everyone will remember me, and I will be a legend, a poet, and a lonely voice.
Death is temporary –
Just like a growing flower that dies instantly.”
Are we still human beings?
Or,
is anyone else listening?
Or,
is anyone else listening?
© Charlie Zero and Friends share the same suicide, 2013. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this blog’s author and/or owner is strictly prohibited. Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Charlie Zero and Friends share the same suicide with appropriate and specific direction to the original content.
claudia said:
thanks for sharing your story with us charlie… bullying is def. something that needs to be addressed and openly spoken about as there are so many people suffering really hard… appreciating your openness and def. cool to write for oln as well to the topic…the more people raise their voice…the more the words spread and hopefully awareness grows….
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
Sorry I’m late.
The messages from all voices need to be heard. I’m sure a lot of young kids who are reading this blog, can help spread this awareness that everyone is facing.
Morgan said:
Thank You so much for sharing your story. I, too, suffered at the hands of some socially inept, thoughtless souls and it’s not fun. Your words and your poem are start reminders of how these seemingly small acts can and do affect the rest of your/our lives.
Blessings~
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
I’m so sorry you’ve suffered in the hands of those bullies.
How long did this go on for? Did your parents or anyone do anything about suspending these bullies from school?
Morgan said:
back then it was just part of being a kid..no one really paid much attention. I guess Im giving a bit of my age away (not that its all that Great 😮 ) but no, I just dealt with it as best I could…and eventually slammed the one girl in the head with my locker door LOL.
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
oh! Tell me something, do you get traumatize here and there? I ask this question because I get traumatize too. I think a lot or I zone out a lot, manly because of what those bullies did to me. I cry from time to time by myself. Sometimes I don’t tell my girlfriend what I am feeling, because I don’t want to worry her. I don’t know if you cry sometimes of flash backs from those bullies.
Morgan said:
I think for me the only lingering effect is that I will often second guess myself or feel uncomfortable around new people until I get to know them and know I can trust them.
Grace said:
Thanks for sharing this with us Charlie ~ Very moving story and yes the message needs to be shared & highlighted in schools, family and neighborhood ~ In my (youngest) daughter’s catholic school, they have programs & sessions on handling bullying & they are also given a telephone number to call in confidence ~ I always tell her to tell us if ever she is bullied or teased in school ~ All the best to you ~
And Happy Monday to all ~
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
Thanks for reading and listening Grace.
I’m so glad and happy that at your daughter’s Catholic school are teaching these programs and awareness to all students.
claudia said:
just about to skype with my little one in costa rica…will be back in a bit…smiles
brian miller said:
smiles….enjoy…let us know how she is doing…
claudia said:
ah she’s doing good… she helps also with the cooking a bit and hopefully knows lots of good recipes when she’s back… her spanish and english develop… she meets lots of new people and they have tarantulas on the porch and roaches and bugs that have the size of birds…ha… smiles
brian miller said:
ah, a little side perk on her return….you get some good food….smiles…
bugs the size of birds, oh my
seek the sun said:
Bugs the size of birds……I think I’ll check costa rica off my bucket list…..smiles…
brian miller said:
haha yes
ellaedge said:
I hope she is having a wonderful time! I know you miss her~ @>————-
seek the sun said:
Great post. I don’t have a poem to share but I too was a victim of bullying as a kid, who never followed the crowd. My style of dress was uniquely my own. I was bookish and shy in school. When my family moved to the suburbs of Philadelphia, I started at a new school. I was new and didn’t know anyone. I always seemed to gravitate toward people who fell outside the social norm. I was picked on mercilessly, bullied and teased by fellow classmates and some of the kids in my neighborhood. I always felt like a freak of nature and spent many days in tears wondering what was wrong with me. My mom tried to help but really didn’t understand what I was going through. I never realized how deeply it had scarred me until years later when I saw an independent film called Welcome to the Dollhouse. The main character was bullied and picked on in school. As the credits rolled so did my tears, hot and hard. All the pain surfaced and ran down my cheeks. I couldn’t wrap my mind around where all this pain had come from and how I had held on to it for so long. I am glad to speak about this here and thank you for sharing. All the best to my poet family. I am exploring my visual art and taking a break from poetry, but I will be back.
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
oh…my….sorry…I was crying a little…I know exactly how you feel. It hurts me so much deep inside how anyone can be cruel towards others. 😦
I have never seen the movie (Welcome to the Dollhouse). But I will be buying the movie this Friday when I get paid. Now, its catching my full attention.
Thank you a millions for sharing this story of yours and I am here for you if you ever need a friend to talk to or listen to you. 🙂
seek the sun said:
Thanks for sharing your story. It is not easy to relive that pain. It occurs at a critical age when you are so vulnerable and want nothing more but to fit in. You are developing your self esteem. It really hurts. I have learned to appreciate the value of feeling vulnerable and exploring those raw emotions since then. It helps me create poetry and art by touching on those things that make us deeply human. I have been able to forgive the bullies because I know that what they did came out of their own pain and fear. This is a wonderful topic to bring up for discussion. Thanks for your courage and willingness to share.
Ella said:
I def will try to find this movie! Thank you for your courage~ I do think today we are trying, but with social media it is worse-imho. I know my daughter’s high school is very proactive. It is a scary world… Thank you for bringing this subject into the light-discussion helps us cope and share the burden-you are not alone!
claudia said:
it is so cool how a movie kinda broke the dam and helped you understand what you were feeling and sort your emotions a bit…
and hey… exploring your visual art sounds good… smiles
seek the sun said:
It was funny because a friend of mine picked the movie and I had no idea what it was about. It took me awhile to understand why I was crying because I guess I had deeply supressed my emotions at the time.
ellaedge said:
Thank you Charlie, for sharing your voice! We must speak and tell our stories~ I am sad n’ sorry you fell this low and how your life was circled by mean, toxic people.
I use to be bullied and am again now. My poems today kinda speak of this riddle. I have to be cautious-this is why I expressed it as a poem.
I was bullied in junior high, when I lost weight. A room full of girls-I think one of them called the teacher out of the room. He was gone a long, long time. The boys tried to stick up for me. I see these bullies on FB and I know they don’t remember, but I’ll never forget~
My father had friends from high school and their families use to come over. They were mean and for years I had to tolerate it. One day, the two mean girls said…
“You told so and so I’m mean” the other girl said the same message. They told me I was two faced. I said, “you know what you both are mean and two faced. YOU both have bad mouthed each other to me. I don’t like either one of you. I have to tolerate you because our parents are friends. Guess what we are old enough now to admit the truth. You are old enough to stay home and not come here and play cat n’ mouse. Don’t come to my house anymore-stay home.” They were stunned….of course this made school worse and phone calls from the parents. They both grew up and are still mean girls. I could write a novel about bullies.
I married into a family of toxic. My MIL is the meanest woman I have ever met. We no longer speak… I am fortunate to live 820 mls from her. I think sensitive people attract them. I am sorry you have to live near the reminder~
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
I’m so deeply sorry that you had to go through this.
Did you ever tell your parents or your father of what went on with these people bullying you? If so, did your father talked to them? Those mean girls seem like their future is going to crash down on them hard. When it comes to mean people like that – there’s no changing their ways or their emotionless ego’s. It’s like that old saying: “You can’t teach a monkey new tricks?” I’m not sure if its a monkey or a dog, but if someone can correct me then cool. My point is that mean people will have bad karma coming their way. Their children will hate them and they will be saying to themselves why do my kids hate me?
So you’re married? and your husbands family is toxic..right? Question: When your Mother-in-law is mean to you, does your husband defend you? Is it just Your mother-in-law that is mean to you? or is it the whole family themselves?
I’m sorry about what your going through…:( I feel your pain.
Ella said:
The whole family was mean to me. No, my husband didn’t stand up for me. He told me I must of misunderstood. (I am a Type 1 diabetic and ended up in an ambulance over their unnecessary cruelty.) Even holidays and birthdays were dreadful. I was accused of buying thrift shop items for Christmas. I didn’t-I do buy baskets and sometimes give gifts in them, but not for these people. His mother, sister and grandmother would go out of their way and gang up on me, while my husband was with brother in law and dad. One day I had enough. It was New Year’s eve and I said, “No, I am not going to their home, not now or ever again. ” I haven’t been in their home for 14 yrs.” My husband would take our kids over to visit and I never set food in their home again. They eventually kicked their own son out of the family and no one has spoken for 14yrs. He tried to fix it at one point-I said fine they are your family, but I honestly can’t be part of it anymore. I ended up in an ambulance several times. His mother lied to his father and this is what their son told his dad and how he ended up getting kicked out. It is horrid and my husband recently retired from the Navy and didn’t have a ceremony-he didn’t want people to ask, “Where is your family?”
They are cruel people…I found out when I wasn’t around any more to torture, I wasn’t there only target. These women were doing it to people they worked with. My husband told me that his sister kept getting a flat tire after work. So, her dad n’ husband had the tire checked. They thought it was a slow leak-no, it wasn’t. Someone was letting the air out of the tire-they were constantly attacking people. I use to shake driving down their drive way…I didn’t want to go. It was like a game of cat n’ mouse. I wish I had just stood up and walked out, but it was quite a ways to walk. My husband would not defend me-he knew them better than me and probably figured we would be tossed out.
I try not to think about it much…it went on for a long time, before I decided enough. I don’t have to live this wake. I was tired of shaking and being ridden with anxiety for every birthday and holiday. My only regret is that I didn’t do it sooner~
I am sorry for everyone who has been a target!
Grace said:
Ella, my heart goes out to you ~ Thanks for the personal share ~
ellaedge said:
Thank you Grace! It is hard to marry someone and be so hated by their family. I wasn’t at first. The defining moment was the day my FIL said I looked good. His wife is obese and his daughter has an eating disorder. This comment changed the whole dynamic of the relationship.
brian miller said:
charlie…thank you for sharing your story with us…as i alluded to in the opening i was a late bloomer and an easy target for bullies…so much so that i changed to confront it…becoming very dark and scary….fear is a powerful motivator for change and i figured if i was scary enough they would leave me alone…they did…
i think that the schools in my area are doing a better job than when i grew up…we have very strict policies on bullying…and we have to submit reports as well at the end of the year monitoring the number of incidences as well…
i have written on it several times…but i am taking a bit of a different direction in my poem for tomorrows OLN…
brian miller said:
sorry, i got the formatting fixed too, so that everything isnt running together…had to recode the post…oy
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
I feel the same way you do.
I too, had to dress up all crazy looking so that others would find me scary and wouldn’t mess with me. Til’ this day, I dress all in black…wearing “Nine Inch Nails” t-shirts, or “Marilyn Manson” shirts. I think nobody comes near me because to them I am fear…ha! I guess I have their attention of them no messing with me at all. 🙂
So Brian…what’s tomorrow’s poems going to be about? Just curious.
Thank you for sharing your story with me brian…we both have been through a lot and we are family you and I…I will protect you as well as you would for me. 🙂
brian miller said:
one of the big issues for me beyond the bullies are the bystanders…who see…who watch and do nothing…that is where i am going with mine…
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
Nice! I actually like that idea of yours.
I’m excited about tomorrow and your approach to the bystanders issue.
seek the sun said:
I hadn’t given much thought to the bystanders. I know at one point my whole classroom was bystanders and some of them joined in with the bullies. My teacher was in the room, oblivious to what was going on and instead I got in trouble. That is definitely an interesting perspective to explore.
rosross said:
Perhaps one reason why there is more bullying in American schools is because children do not wear uniforms. Beyond the fact that uniforms just make life so much easier for parents and there are no arguments in the morning about what to wear, neither is there the ability to discriminate against kids because of what they wear or what they cannot afford to wear.
With American friends and family I understand the rejection of uniforms is sourced in some sort of belief that it limits individualism but in countries where uniforms are the norm, the belief is that it encourages children to be less individualistic – plenty of time for that outside school hours and when they grow up – and therefore more a part of the community. Of course there will always be exceptions but I posit this in general.
Individualism is something which American culture seems to have explored and developed more fully than others and like all things, there is good and bad in that. It is important to be an individual but we must also function in community. The first community a child experiences, beyond family, is school. The more we feel a need to take a stand, to establish ourselves as individuals, the more division there will be. Schools by their nature are about cohesion and rules and order etc., so perhaps the emphasis on individualism, symbolised by the lack of uniform in American schools, encourages more division, more competitiveness, more individualism , and more fear and uncertainty – all of which plays a part in bullying.
Just some thoughts as an outsider with personal exposure and time spent in the States.
Grace said:
These are just my personal thoughts as well:
My two older boys went to a catholic private primary school and uniforms were worn. Granted it was not in the USA, but they were teased nevertheless. The solution – they fought outside the school premises in their uniforms. I only knew about this afterwards but it was a good thing they were fearless fighters. They were never bullied again. I don’t know about the growing up boys culture, but it seems that fighting with one’s fists, seems to be “one” of the solution. You need to stand up for yourself and show you can’t be pushed around.
rosross said:
I did not say there was no bullying… I said there was less. I believe there is more bullying than there was and in some cultures it is worse than others.
Having said that, the private school culture both in Australia and the UK is more inclined to it than you find in the State school system at least in Australia which I know.
English private schools have always been bad because they inherited a centuries old system where the young students played servant to the older ones. Some of that got passed on to Australian private schools – such is the power of culture.
But, your boys went to a Catholic school which should be much better and if they were teased it sounds like it is the sort of general teasing kids do, otherwise it would not have been settled with one fight.
ellaedge said:
Sad to hear this Grace! My son was bullied because he was tall for his age. The older kids thought he had stayed back two grades. My husband is 6’4.
I agree one has to fight-stand up-sometimes! Sometimes this doesn’t work it just makes the bully gather his so called friends. I think it is low self esteem in most cases.
seek the sun said:
For me, the bullying caused me to withdraw and become isolated. I lived in my imagination and had a few close friends who helped me survive. Now, I am grateful that I didn’t change myself to fit into the clicks. I like my uniqueness and have since learned to celebrate that.
charliezero1.wordpress.com said:
I feel the same way too…I myself have isolated myself from everyone expect my 4 close friends and my girlfriend who I love so much. She understands that I don’t have a lot of friends like everyone else does in this world. I love living in my imagination. It helps me create a whole new world with new friends that I can talk to. 🙂
I feel the pain and hurt and I don’t blame you at all. 😦
ellaedge said:
I am happy you discovered how special you are! 😀
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Charlie… I read your story when you posted it the first time, and it still shocks me. Bullying lack all purpose, and I can still not grasp how come it happens. Children learn from grown-ups… and it all starts at home. It starts with followers and “leaders”.. and I think that it has to be seen for what it is…
rosross said:
Bullying is aggression – aggression is anger – behind anger there is always fear. The more bullying in a society the more aggression, anger and fear. And vice-versa. I don’t think there is any doubt that American culture is inherently fearful – otherwise why would there be 300million guns? That fear sets it apart not just from all other developed nations but pretty much all other nations. Yemen is the next most heavily armed nation after the US and pretty dysfunctional to boot in terms of social structure, but it has vastly lower levels of violence. One can only assume the Yemenis are less fearful, despite having more reason to be fearful.
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Oh I agree with you.. fear is at the bottom of some part of it, and when it comes to bullying (attacking those perceived weaker) it’s the fear of not belonging, of sliding down the social ladder or unable to climb. Of being excluded.. the feeling that someone else is worse of can be a comfort blanket for those bullies..
lynndiane said:
Certainly a lot of pain in this world and “meanness” seems to get passed around…often bullies were bullied by someone and just putting up bravado? Thanks for providing safe space here to share and for being brave enough to share your stories. Unfortunately, it seems kids in groups are prone to establish some sort of “pecking order”, kind of like chickens or pigs on the farm. But we can do better!
Susan said:
I think you’d call what I experienced in elementary school Bullying. I learned to call it anti-semitism and poverty–I wore other kids hand-me-downs but didn’t celebrate their holidays. I had to learn what a Christ-killer was. Outsider status stayed with me throughout school, but not the bullying. I’m not quite sure why it dropped off. I had a small nerd crowd with chess club and band. Faith, though has always been a focus for me, and the do-unto-others rule. These things helped my empathize with students and handle some tough moments as theatre educator in colleges and high school English teacher.
Victoria C. Slotto said:
Charlie, I couldn’t quite hit the “Like” button. It just seemed inappropriate. But I commend you for this honest write–aspects of which I relate to even though I was a couple of generations ahead of you. Thank you for your courage and honesty. I hope this reaches some kids who need to read it, to hear your message. Even if only one child, it was well worth the effort. Thank you.
grapeling said:
Charlie, glad you’re finding your voice. Brian, thanks for highlighting this.
Sherry Blue Sky said:
Charlie, thanks for writing your story. In high school, I befriended a boy who was bullied mercilessly – he was the only gay male in a church run high school – you can just imagine! Oddly, the bullying took place when no teachers were around and no one seemed to clue in – When we all grew up, he was ten times the person any of those jeering bullies became. School can be hell. I do think awareness has increased, but the meanness still persists and causes much heartache when kids are still trying to figure out who they are. What we need is a Kindness movement. Teaching empathy. You asked about being traumatized. You might want to check the possibility you have PTSD?? Post traumatic stress? Maybe there is some help for that, if so. The good news is: we’re grown up now. The bad news is: our kids and grandkids still have to go to school. Brian, I am pleased to see this topic and will try to make time tomorrow to write to it. It is a work day. But this is such an important topic. These conversations need to continue.
Sharp Little Pencil said:
Charlie, I admire your forthrightness and your involvement in the campaign. As a longtime LGBTQ ally and a PFLAG mom of a girl with Asperger’s, I know the toll bullying can take. I’ve seen kids from the small town we used to live in commit suicide (both girls: one lesbian, one pregnant and harassed).
It’s hard for kids to relate to a woman in her 50s, but when I tell them I was teased because they thought I was a lesbian (and in the 70s, once that started, brother, you’d had it) and because I walked with a cane. The “crip” crap got sooooo tired sooooo soon.
I have a feeling artistic types tend to get bullied a lot, because we see things from a different angle; we often have manageable mental disorders (I’m bipolar plus other stuff); and, most importantly, we make our voices heard. I’m going to write something for my blog and link back to this post, because it’s courageous and excellently written.
Thank you for being you, Charlie 100%! Amy
ellaedge said:
Sorry to hear this Amy! I saw things different too and I do think this leads to it~
Thank you Charlie, for sharing and telling it like it is~
brian miller said:
i remember your story amy…
we just had a suicide here last week…
there are def ramifications…
shanyns said:
Thank you. Thank you.
rosross said:
I don’t think there is any doubt that war damages people. My father was seventeen when he went to war – he lied about his age – and while he was not a bully, he was a very angry, aggressive, quick to hit father. He was very damaged. Who knows how the First World War had impacted his family and culture – his father and uncles fought – amazingly none of them were killed – and none were in the Second World War. However, while they avoided literal death they clearly did not avoid metaphysical death to varying degrees.
I was never bullied but then I think bullying is more common in the US than in other cultures. I watched enough American movies with my kids when they were young to perceive that. There does seem to be more bullying in general but then kids these days watch more violent movies and the US is the source of most of them and violence and aggression are constant themes, particularly in movies made for teenagers.
Children bully because they learn to and because they are fearful. Understanding why a society has so much bullying is the only path to change.
brian miller said:
bullying can def be a learned trait….understanding is also def a step in the positive direction….i think too we have to come to a place where we are willing to make the sacrifices it takes to have any kind of lasting change….
rosross said:
Yes and we need to bear in mind the plasticity of children’s brains. Adult brains are also plastic but children even more so. Children today are exposed to so much more violence because of technology than they would ever see normally, unless they lived in a war zone or with violent parents.
rosross said:
Charlie, it takes courage to share one’s pain. Well done. But it is only in the sharing that we can connect and learn that we are all in this together and it is rare not to find others who have experienced the same sort of pain. That is always a comfort.
We all have to put together a set of beliefs which work for us – astrology explained a lot of my childhood experiences for me and subsequent ones, and an exploration of psyche and spirituality enabled me to find meaning in all of the pain.
I was shy as a child, poor, wearing second-hand clothes and while I did not have many friends – sometimes none – I was never bullied. The biggest bullies in the 1950’s were the teachers but they were not so much bullies, as being strict.
I do believe cultures are different and in Australia kids would be called names – laughed at – for all sorts of things, being fat, being a Wog (immigrant); red hair, freckles etc., but then kids did that to their friends as well. And mostly it was just a joke with no hard edge. Religion is not big in Australia so that was rarely a focus – most kids would have no idea what your religion was, if you had any.
Kids can be cruel because they are unthinking. But bullying as it has developed is I believe a more recent thing. With kids going through school in the mid-70’s on and grand-children now, I don’t see so much bullying although there is a lot of talk about it…but what there is, I believe, is sourced in fear in ways it was not in the past in the main. We live in a fear-driven world and some cultures more so than others – where children don’t have the freedom to roam and play as we did because their parents are too fearful.
Fear is contagious. A fearful parent creates fearful children and so it goes.
rosross said:
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Lisa A.Williams said:
I never understood what provokes bullying, even if one comes from an abusive home to turn on an innocent child and derive pleasure from hurting them just doesn’t make sense. I remember being so afraid to walk to the bus stop, yet alone going outside for recess, fearing what was to come when I was only in Kindergarten and first grade. Your story moved me to tears. At least schools are doing more to try to prevent such things, they did nothing when I was in elementary school.
rosross said:
Children are psychic sponges, they reflect the society in which they are born and grow. If a child grows up with fear and aggression, whether from their family, society, religion or habits like television, then that is what they will learn unless they are exceptional.
Many children these days are medicated and that must and does impact not just brain function but emotional development. Many of them spend too much time watching television, often violent; playing video games, often violent; watching or hearing news, often violent and in the case of the US, living in homes where adults are so fearful they believe they need to own a gun. Beyond their exposure to violence children’s brains are impacted, and not in positive ways, by their exposure to electro-magnetism whether from television, ipads, ipods etc., or from the very bad habit of having electronic equipment in their rooms when they sleep – television, clocks etc.
In addition behavioural and learning difficulties have escalated dramatically, as have levels of autism, major and minor so what is perhaps remarkable is not that there is more dysfunction in children but that any, since most are exposed to the negative factors cited above, are functional.
It is not the fault of the children ever – it is the fault and responsibility of the society.
brian miller said:
strong words….i agree though on it being the responsibility of society…see my comment above on our willingness to sacrifice for true and lasting change…and that takes commitment from all…not sure what it would take to get there though.
rosross said:
Yes, saw your comment on schools and just found your other comment. Society like all things is in a process of change and evolution. Awareness is the first step to being instrumental in that change and evolution.
I believe the core factors in positive evolution and change is a society which is as just and equal as possible and where everyone receives a decent education. That doesn’t mean everyone has to go to university, just that everyone needs a good basic education for education opens the door to information and when we are informed we are better able to make conscious and productive decisions.
History records quite clearly the poorer the education, particularly of women, the less developed the society. And where people don’t get a decent living wage so they don’t live in fear of the future and so have time to become better informed, and where people are protected as employees so they don’t live in fear of the future etc., essentially a society which enables people to live in security will be a society, if people have an education, where more people will be more enlightened and more able to work constructively for change.
The greatest danger for any society is inequality for that breeds social division and dysfunction.
Fear is the most destructive element in any society and I do believe behind bullying is fear.
Sherry Blue Sky said:
I will be back to link my poem and read all of yours. It’s a work day, but this is a topic I feel strongly about. See you later, kids!
mindretrofit8 said:
So happy to read Charlie’s story here, thank you for sharing again Charlie! You know how much it resonates with me. 🙂
My story is too long to share – I have given snippets and pieces all over the internet, but after reading this today I was reminded of a post I wrote when I moved back to hometown last year. I went to go face some of the ghosts of my bullies from the first part of my childhood and what I found was the realization of how the words lingered and tormented, but “they” were all gone – I could take back what had been destroyed and make good come of it.
This was that day http://www.mindretrofit.com/2012/07/17/they-are-gone-its-gone/
Lydia said:
Your powerful post touched my heart. I have lost a dear cousin and two childhood friends to suicide. It is a shock that those left behind never truly get over. Also, my husband was bullied as a boy and the scars are indeed deep.
Many blessings to the survivors of bullying…..
tigerbrite said:
I am so sorry for your suffering. Those who bully or ridicule others are lowly, unevolved beings ruled by their egos. I hope you can let go of the pain, don’t lock it up in your heart because it will hurt you more than the bullying did. With love.
ellaedge said:
I will too be back to link and read all the poems~ Thank you again for being brave and sharing your story and now stories!
poetisatinta said:
Thanks so much for sharing – so glad you are in a good place now. I was lucky not to be bullied and both my parents were loving, even if my dad was a bit of a stickler and expected us to always do as we were told – I often didn’t but never suffered as a result. My parents always told us to stand up for ourselves and our beliefs, I sometimes think bullies feel inferior so somehow bullying others makes them feel better about themselves – very sad really and the damage they do is immense. Take care ❤