It’s turning autumn outside the pub, and a few bare limbs are starting to show. There’s hot drinks made with mugs nearby. Pour one for yourself and meet us in the usual corner. Today we’re going back to sestinas. You’ve had a little time to think about the ones you started a month ago, or so. I’m going to put the formula for the “set” form here again for review.
As you know in a sestina, you do not repeat complete lines as you do in pantoums and villanelles. You construct the poem with six end words in lines that are traditionally decasyllabic, often in iambic pentameter, (although that is not always strictly followed). These words are called teleteutons. The layout of the poem, writing to these six words, is called a retrogradatio cruciata (no this is not a borrowed curse from Harry Potter). This structure has two primary traits: (a) if instead of writing the envoy (tornada) one continued to write another stanza employing the same rotation of last words, that stanza would mirror the last words of the first stanza; (b) by not writing that 7th stanza means that each end word holds a unique place in every stanza of the poem, and never repeats that place.
If you care to explore this further, Sara Gwen Weaver takes this information and extrapolates it giving you mathematical models in which to write other repeating pattern poems and gives you an insight into how deliciously puzzle-like and mathematical this form can be. Her article can be found here.
There are many ways that the sestina has been modernized. For example one can break the poem into tercets or an alternative form by using a couplet. These word orders could change from 123 456 to 135 246. An even rarer form, they say exists using haiku in the 575 structure, instead of a tercet. I thought that sounded intriguing; however I couldn’t find any examples of it.
Not one to be daunted, I wrote my own. You will find my exploration of the “haiku sestina” with the traditional endings and also using both prescribed words in each line of the last stanza as envoy. The stanzas are not behaving as true haiku because they only employ the 5/7/5 syllables form. The lines enjamb and there is neither kigo (seasonal reference) nor kireji (cutting word between two images). I will link it (Art in 5.7.5) to Mr. Linky for today.
There are other rare alternate forms which either reverse the closing word order of the six stanzas before the tercet, yielding 123456, 246531, 451362, 532614, 364125, and 615243; or restructure the order into a different “retrograde cross form” such as 123456, 435261, 256314, 361542, 514623, and 642135.
There is also the double sestina which seems to have been invented by Algernon Charles Swinburne who also is credited with having invented the roundel. Here is his Complaint of Lisa.
The standard double sestina takes on this form:
stanza 1: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
stanza 2: 12 1 9 11 4 7 2 8 3 10 6 5
stanza 3: 5 12 6 4 7 1 2 3 10 9 11 8
stanza 4: 8 5 7 6 4 12 10 2 3 11 1 9
stanza 5: 9 8 6 10 1 2 7 4 3 12 5 11
stanza 6: 11 9 6 10 4 2 7 1 12 8 5 3
stanza 7: 3 11 7 8 12 1 2 10 5 6 9 4
stanza 8: 4 3 9 6 5 10 1 7 12 11 8 2
stanza 9: 2 4 5 1 3 8 7 10 9 11 12 6
stanza 10: 6 2 9 3 8 1 7 5 10 4 11 12
stanza 11: 12 6 8 4 3 5 9 10 2 1 11 7
stanza 12: 7 12 6 3 9 11 5 8 4 2 10 1
tornada: 12 10/8 9/7 4/3 6/2 1/11 5
Sestinas are an old form but perhaps because of the challenge, or because they are not required to have specific rhyme or meter, they appeal to writers of modern poetry. Their defined length prevents me from posting many here.
However, I would like to include one I found that appeals to me very much by the poetic alter ego of author Lewis Turco writing poetry under the name Wesli Court (an anagram). The poem is entitled The Obsession. It is unusual in that all six of the teleteutons form the first line of the poem and the first line of every succeeding stanza reformed to match the required end word. Because of this, it was impossible to come up with a standard envoy; therefore, he reshaped them one more time to provide a one line envoy made up of all six teleteutons.
THE OBSESSION
Last night I dreamed my father died again,
A decade and a year after he dreamed
Of death himself, pitched forward into night.
His world of waking flickered out and died —
An image on a screen. He is the father
Now of fitful dreams that last and last.
I dreamed again my father died at last.
He stood before me in his flesh again.
I greeted him. I said, “How are you, father?”
But he looked frailer than last time I’d dreamed
We were together, older than when he’d died —
I saw upon his face the look of night.
I dreamed my father died again last night.
He stood before a mirror. He looked his last
Into the glass and kissed it. He saw he’d died.
I put my arms about him once again
To help support him as he fell. I dreamed
I held the final heartburst of my father.
I died again last night: I dreamed my father
Kissed himself in glass, kissed me goodnight
In doing so. But what was it I dreamed
In fact? An injury that seems to last
Without abatement, opening again
And yet again in dream? Who was it died
Again last night? I dreamed my father died,
But it was not he — it was not my father,
Only an image flickering again
Upon the screen of dream out of the night.
How long can this cold image of him last?
Whose is it, his or mine? Who dreams he dreamed?
My father died. Again last night I dreamed
I felt his struggling heart still as he died
Beneath my failing hands. And when at last
He weighed me down, then I laid down my father,
Covered him with silence and with night.
I could not bear it should he come again —
I died again last night, my father dreamed
© All Rights Reserved to Lewis Turco
You’ll find the web page for his new book The Gathering of the Elders here with a reading of the above poem by the author.
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I read many variations in preparing today’s article. Since they’re so lengthy, I am linking you to several which you can read at your leisure:
A standard one by Elizabeth Bishop called Sestina
Two Lorries, a variation by Seamus Heaney with his own reading of it is which is quite wonderful.
And for the last link, I will include a poem here that combines the double sestina form with a modern treatment in tone and language. This will satisfy you who oscillate between loving free verse and set form. There’s a bit of both here for you. It’s just too good for you guys to miss but as it’s 13 long-lined stanzas it would overwhelm this article. Please read Hardboiled Poem by Gary Keenan. Fair warning, you might need a drink refill before you finish it!
Once again, link your own sestina to Mr. Linky and try to read at least two or three of your fellow poets linked there. Thank you so much for coming by and hanging out today.
Welcome to the pub. I’m excited to bring you variations on the sestina today. I hope you enjoy the article, and get a chance to read a couple or more sestinas of others who link today. Thank you for support of the pub of dVersePoets, you’re always welcome here!
Gosh… so many new possibilities with all of this new information and artistic creativity. I will go with the one I already worked on (inspired by the fundraiser we just held where I work with people with developmental disabilities), but thank you for opening so many new doors of opportunity today.
Great post Gay! Will be back later to visit those who make the attempt.
ah gay – you’re so awesome…i have highest respect for those of you brave enough to take that pencil and write a sestina…for me it still sounds like advanced maths and i may need to ripen a bit as a poet before i take that sword and face the challenge…
but surely will be around and enjoy some of yours…looking forward to reading..
I should hang my head in shame. I have linked my first sestina, one that grew out of frustration. Hope you enjoy my sestina rant.
Beth
Thanks, Gay! I have to admit I posted one I wrote awhile back… I think you’ll find a few surprises in it(I kept this one simple).
Gay! Wonderful post and so sorry I have to miss this one…I’ve got some half written attempts, but nothing polished enough to post 😦 If I can find the time I’ll certainly use it here….just wanted to swing by to let you know I’m playing along in spirit if nothing else! Be well Poets! and as always…write on 🙂
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Oh no! Another sestina. They are so hard to write. But, I have one I can post. Meanwhile, I better work on the one I have 2/3 done, so that if someone else asks for one, then I’ll have another one ready.
Great project. I am putting up an old one, but will try to write a new. It’s such an interesting form, but so long. Thanks much for the article, which I also want to peruse at length. I wrote my tips on my post, though they are pretty meager. The poems simply take a fair amount of time.
Ok, here’s the sestina I wrote today. It is only my second so please be kind. As before I took liberties with the length of lines to vary it up a bit (and it is not in meter – as it is my second). I also recorded it for any who’d like to listen. Thank you very much Gay!
What an extremely cool and informative write up, Gay. Some of these variations look like they would be really interesting and productive to experiment with. That last one by Turco/Court really shows what the form can do–it’s superlative. I find that this form will pull things out of you you never knew you had, and I like it for longer pieces very much. I’ve slaved over most of my attempts at sestina for weeks and months, but the one I’ve posted here today came rather quickly, so apologies for any roughness, especially in line length–which is kind of all over the place, and meter, which I think it has, but I’m not making any sworn statements.
Now I’m off to see how the 5-7-5 variation came out!
Looking forward to it Anna. I’ve just read Beth’s, you guys give it a whirl. It’s perfect, funny, and excellent. I’m just now getting around to reading. I put up a recording of mine too. Well I thought I had to. It probably did need a little more something, I thought. Thanks, you guys, for coming by!
Gay, Beth’s piece was wonderfully funny and expressive of all of our frustrations.
Aww… thank you. I’m glad you can relate to my rant.
Gay, you are a star! Any chance you could possibly explain the traits (the a) and b) thing) a bit more…? Otherwise I THINK I get it (but I have no idea if I can actually transfer getting it onto paper in the form of a poem). So I don’t actually have to rhyme, just stick to the end words? *scrunching up forehead and feeling rather silly for asking* Again, brilliant post!
I think if you click on the link to the post by Sara Gwen Weaver (the underlined “here” above), you’ll get a complete elaboration of what she means. But simply stated it means that every following stanza has the same relation to the one that precedes it and when you get through the sixth stanza, you will begin again. But she presents mathematical models where you can change the numbers of lines and come up with all sorts of variations in the form.
Thanks Gay! I missed out on the deadline for the previous dVerse sestina prompt last month, so I’m posting the one I wrote back then. Hope that’s OK. Had a really hard time with this style – don’t think I’d want to write too many sestinas!
That was the purpose, Stephen, of writing a second article about Sestinas. I think writing them takes some time. I had in mind a month ago to write the form I did today. However, I was flailing around for a subject to examine in that way. I was kicking around several ideas when I watched this episode of Charlie Rose. With that inspiration, I wrote it in a day or two after I’d seen the show. I’ve polished it a little but mostly it came down in one, then I had to hone it…to the syllabic count. So please, please don’t feel this is to write “new” ones.
Today, I only wanted to show that for modern poets, this form is quite popular. And to show that by molding that form to your needs, you keep it fresh, modern, and personal. If you get a chance to read Hardboiled Poem, you’ll see how this takes on the shape of a short story. Thanks!
I’m glad I worked up the courage to tackle one of these at last. I’m going to enjoy checking out everyone else’s posts this evening.
Gene so glad you did. I haven’t quite made it to your place yet. But I will soon! Thanks for coming by, reading, & linking! And that goes for everyone!
Just getting home from work. I’ll feed my dogs then come do some reading. *hug*
Wrapping all of you in hugs this evening – really feeling “life is short, art is long” tonight. I know the Latin for that, but who really cares!
I believe I could do a doctoral dissertation comparing Anna’s sestina to Gary Keenan’s. They’ve both taken me on journeys tonight. I’m discovering Otis Spann on youtube and I gotta say…especially to Joy and Brendan, once Chicagoans — how come you guys never turned me on to him? How could I have lived this long and I thought I knew them all. This guy is some blues piano man!
Gay, thank you for encouraging me to read Gary Keenan’s poem, I see why you called it polar opposite of mine. It was informative, his style reminded me a bit of Brendan’s. Thank you again for being such a gracious and wonderful host, hugs back.
If someone were going to anthologize sestinas – they could do no better than to publish the ones I’ve read today. wow, Wow, WOW!!!
I’m home off work now and thought I would drop back in to make the rounds. A coffee with a bit of Irish Cream to tide me while I’m sipping in the gracious words of everyone sounds great.
my second sestina is not quite finished so I posted one you all have read. Sorry about the double link. Mr. Linky did me wrong. sorry bout that! Have a great weekend everyone. I wont be posting for a bit due to a cast. Take care and I will try to read your poems each week. Thank you for the welcoming you shared with me these past couple of monthis.
May your recovery be swift!
gay, hate to disappoint…but the beach is calling me…and i am going to steal my wife from work and surprise her with a 3 day beach trip…perhaps i will find a sestina along the way…smiles. will read a few though and see if they inspire me…
Have fun – the beach is best this time of year. Our is beautiful these days. Wish I had more time to spend there. Things not so good here on the home front. May wind up at hospital today. But hope these sestinas do in inspire you, Brian, because they are superlative!
WordPress is giving me all kinds of trouble, so I hope this goes through… left two links, one to a sestina I wrote the other day (serendipity!) and one “helix sestina” (where I had the first words go in the same pattern as the end, but from the bottom up) that appeared at Autumn Sky.
The sestina, she is a harsh mistress.
Amazing, brilliant, spectacular, spectacular wow wow wow work work work here. I am so bloody impressed. Such talent, such an array of subjects, so well achieved and articulated. You guys knock me stone out! I’ll be back tomorrow to read more. Y’all read one another’s – you will be glad you did. If not now, the page will stay up. These are poems you will want to visit over and over again.
I’m doing a weeklong workshop – last day today. I’ve posted my almost sestina which I have been writing and re-writing ever since the last sestina article, and I’ll be back to read the others at the weekend, if I’m not too exhausted! This workshop is the toughest I’ve ever been to.
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Very adroit write-up, Gay, U rock as always. Reading Hedgewitch’s sestina yesterday had me, against all my recessive purposes (porpoises?), ham-handedly cobbling my rarest excursion into form. Let’s just say that the community revived, for this whlie more, this water poet. You make me belief there’s fish aplenty left in poetry’s sea.
Be sure to read that Hardboiled Poem. It stretches to meet his needs as I think you could make this form stretch to meet yours…(of course I’m completely blown away and enormously pleased to know you’re trying “form”) Looking forward to reading whatever you post!
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I have given it a go now… Could someone please tell me if this is actually a Sestina or if I’ve just created some kind of new bastardized hybrid of my own… *blushing* Thank you again, Gay! You really manage to make all this reasonably accessible even for someone who doesn’t ‘do’ formalized poetry! And thank you to all the others at dVerse Poetry Pub! Have a round on me!
To everyone I haven’t read yet, I will be reading throughout the day. We’re having problems here (my housemate is quite ill and apparently not improving). We’re scheduled for the doctor at noon central time and may have to go to hospital later. He’s been fainting when trying to stand lately and this morning hurt himself.
Oh, I hope he’s OK!!! Will keep fingers crossed for his recovery – and I’m sure no one will mind if you focus on the important things first (at least no one should)!!! *hugs*
So sorry to hear this Gay. This has been such an ordeal for you both. I hope the doctors are able to help.
Sorry to hear of your roommates difficulties. Must be hard on you both. Good luck with the appointment today. Hopefully they will find some ‘better’ solutions.
oh gay – so sorry to hear this…hope everything turned out well..prayers..
Good luck. Here’s hope for fast recovery.
Really enjoy this form and its challenges, my week has completely taken over time for me so I decided to share a sestina just recently written at the end of August, a few may have already read this one, but it might be new to a few folks here at the pub. thanks for hosting us once again! ~ Rose
I have to run off to mentor and run errands but will be back to finish reading tonight or tomorrow morning. Gay, I’m very sorry to hear about your housemate, sending positive thoughts your way.
Gay, had more of a chance to read your post carefully today since not at work. It is really interesting and helpful and the Turco is very inspiring. One thing I noted in his is that he uses words that are very laden with meaning–father, dream, died etc. so lend themselves to the repetition. Good lesson in trying. Anyway, all very interesting. K.
hello again…spent a lovely hour sitting on the pavement in the sun..until someone walked by and asked if i need help…yes…could you please hold the sun for me…? smiles
now off to read some of your sestinas…kudos to all of you who approached one…
Hi Gay! I’ve been thinking so much about this I revised and posted another old sestina today. It was really my first ever, so not so great. (Agh.) At any rate, here is the link. http://wp.me/pAARg-29C I’m not posting on Mr. Linky since I already had one there.
Thanks! K.
My heartfelt apologies everyone. I PROMISE before it’s all over I will get to every sestina…but I am wiped today. It was a day of frustration. Been at doctors, hospitals, radiologists, and pharmacies. And may have to trek out again tomorrow because didn’t get everything filled. I think this is just the nature of things. My spirits are hopeful, and especially buoyed today by the tremendous talent I read in the sestinas last night. I really hope you’re reading one another’s work, because each of you are so talented and have so much to offer everyone else.
Notwithstanding that, this is my gig and I WANT to be in on all the fun, but I think I need to have a little dinner and get some sleep. I’ll be fresher in the morning. AGAIN so SORRY.
Sadly, I find it hard to do these form prompts before the link expires. They appear on my Friday morning — my busiest day and night of the week, after which it takes me most of Saturday to recover. This situation is not helped by the fact that my internet access is unreliable and spasmodic.
Once again I’ve finally got to it to find the link expired some hours ago. But if anyone sees this and feels inclined to look, I did write a sestina last time even though I cpuldn’t link to it, and here it is: http://passionatecrone.blogspot.com/2011/09/tonight-moon.html
It’s deliberately written as a ‘free’ sestina (in that the line lengths are uneven and there’s no set metre) because I also posted it in Free Verse Weekends on facebook. It’s a form I have played with before, so perhaps you’d like to look at this earlier attempt too, and see if you think I’ve improved: http://passionatecrone.blogspot.com/2009/04/anti-sestina-poem-mothers-and-sons.html
And anyway, I’ll have fun reading others’ efforts. I was very impressed with the results for the previous sestina prompt.
Gay, so sorry to read of your difficulties. Hope all is better soon. K.
C Rose and Cressida de Nova, I tried to get to your sestinas but for CRose you had another poem I linked to which was not a sestina??? and to Cressida I got an error page. Let me know.
thankyou Gay .. just stopped by and also read your wonderful choiced poem ‘The Obsession’ ~ blown away by this ~ having lost my own beloved Father not too long ago ~ how much that spoke to me ~ I can’ tell you ~ so much here that I have struggled with ~ just wonderful ~ Lib
hope things have improved for you Gay and you feel a little rested and nourished ~ Lib xoxoo
Dear Gary Reiser Cannon,
Thank you very much for your kind words regarding my double sestina Hard Boiled Poem in your entertaining and informative essay on sestinas. I’m quite amazed you even found the poem. I’m beginning to write poems again after almost 10 years writing mostly music. This site looks like a good resource for inspiration. I’ll come by again for sure.
Best regards,
Gary Keenan
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