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Hello again everyone, and welcome to the pub. For today’s FormForAll, I thought we’d learn about Quaterns. These are a French form and they do that thing the French love to do by repeating an entire line. This is called the refrain and the entire poem works in “fours”. However, as with most form poems, feel free to work somewhat outside that “box” if you feel it’s necessary to your subject, or suits your particular voice.
The Quatern is:
1. stanzaic, written in 4 quatrains.
2. syllabic, usually written in lines of 8 syllables (four metric feet). May be iambic, trochaic, or syllabic.
3. rhymed at the poet’s discretion. Possible rhyme schemes are Axax xAxa axAx xaxA, x being unrhymed and the cap A being the refrain. Or Aabb aAcc ddAa eeaA or any combination the poet chooses as long as the refrain is in the proper position.
4. composed with a refrain that is repeated as
L1 of the first stanza
L2 of the second stanza
L3 of the third stanza
L4 of the fourth stanza
The source of this information can be found at: Poetry Magnum Opus
As an example I’m pleased to present a quatern by one of our own –
© Madeleine Begun Kane
Queasy About Quaterns
As I attempt to write this verse,
I must confess I start to curse.
A quatern is what’s been assigned.
Already I am in a bind.
I feel confused and somewhat terse,
As I attempt to write this verse.
So please forgive me if I whine.
My limericks are where I shine.
I’d like to stop, but can’t refrain
From trying this quatern again.
As I attempt to write this verse,
I fear that it is getting worse.
I’m tempted to reject this form.
About its rules I feel lukewarm.
I’m getting ill. I need a nurse,
As I attempt to write this verse.
And another by: © Judi Van Gorder
who can be found with her work and other forms @ Poetry Magnum Opus
The Pen Whispers
My pen hesitates on the page
when I sit to write this letter,
unsure just how I can assuage
your reaction to my ramblings.
We have talked about this before.
The pen hesitates on this page
and whispers how much I love you,
better I shout it from a stage.
Instead I hide inside a cage
fearing you will never hear me.
The pen hesitates on the page
hoping these words won’t go ignored.
We have travelled long together
yet grow no closer as we age.
My romantic dreams unfinished
this pen hesitates on the page.
So have fun. It’s probably easiest to find the refrain first and remember to end with a word that has at least three rhyming words that work into your context. The rest is up to you. Link with Mr. Linky and remember to support your fellow poets. They’ll be eager to know what you think. Looking forward to all your creative efforts.
Oh, this was so much fun! I decided not to rhyme this at all, but adhered to the 8-syllable rule and put the refrain where it had to be… Great form choice for today!
Great to see you Susan. Looking forward to the reads!
Oh, me too!
me too…smiles
Welcome to the pub today. So happy to have you stop by today. We’re serving up pre-holiday cheer along with some ballad like stanzas which can rhyme, or not rhyme. They’re just sets of four perfect for telling a story around the fire. Easy to think of that first line as the repeating line, just let it fall. I think there might be countless variations you could try with this as well but for the first time, probably best to stick to the formula and then branch out. Have fun with it. I’ll be around today and tomorrow to read and comment or answer any questions that I can. Lovely having you come by!
i think i was branching out…smiles….sounds good the way you say it…smiles
another wonderful article gay…love the challenge that the form writing brings..it is surely one of the tools to hone our poetic skillz… my quatern went a bit out of control though..sorry..smiles
Thanks Claudia – we’re all amazed and grateful to read your constant flow of creativity. You never fail to make my heart skip a beat. What talent!
Another fine challenge & FFA prompt, Gay. I used the Syllabic route, 8 syllables per line for all 4 quatrains. I never thought that working with classical forms would be such fun, but over at dVerse Poets, we fly free even within parameters; thanks.
Loved your poem Glenn. So topical and so “politically correct” at least in my opinion (smiles).
so how was the lincoln movie glenn..?
Mine linked for today is four stanzas, four lines, and iambic tetrameter. I cheated a bit though (just can’t help myself) – I changed the refrain slightly in the last stanza. Well as I said before..we have to make it our own! If you missed the one I totally cheated on that I linked for #OLN by writing in iambic pentameter instead of tetrameter, (and have time for) it’s here:http://beachanny.blogspot.com/2012/12/left-in-coole.html – Thank you!
I’m honored that you used my quatern to illustrate the form. Nice article, and I enjoyed Judi Van Gorder’s quatern too.
your quatern is so cool madeleine…
Thanks so much Claudia! I had a lot of fun writing it. 🙂
ha i can tell you had fun…smiles
smiles….it was a rather fun one….like something i might write about form…hehe
LOL! Thanks, Brian! So, may we expect a quatern from you about form? LOL!
i might have to work on that…my refrain…
another form, my fingers bleed
smiles…
Brian, I like it already. 🙂
So pleased to feature it Madeleine. I love that cool Quatern – Queasy About Quaterns – great take on the form!
Thanks again! It was colored, I think, by my addiction to limerick whimsy. 🙂
Nice! I am the rhyming sort I fear, and have been having some fun with this. Thanks again for the hints! 😉 I’ll be back later with my “final” decision! See you soon!!!
Can’t wait! I’m a rhymer too 😉
tash ! i love yours! enchanting and haunting….a little HoooowLLLL at the moon…smiles.
nice….just got the kiddos out of class…and ready to head around…..fun form gay…i broke it again…haha….
Still I don’t know where you keep all those hats you wear – are they balanced precariously on top of your mohawk? You are ONE amazing dude!
what a great challenge, Gay! thank you for this prompt.
now for a late (really late for me, couldn’t stop writing until i finished) dinner… looking forward to reading what you all cooked up!
Thanks Miriam – looking forward to yours as well. I love it when you get an idea and it just “has” to be written down then. I’ve lost so many because I didn’t do it immediately.
yes, i love it, too… though my tummy got really mad at me, i have to say…
ha smiles..enjoy the dinner miriam
the term ‘wolfing it down’ would be accurate for what i did…
Wow guys DO NOT SKIP MIRIAM’S. This poem moved me dramatically. It is more than just a quatern!
Actually I could say that for all the ones I’ve read today. Don’t SKIP anyone’s poem today. The writing is exemplary.
awh, Gay… you make me blush. Thank you so much for your kind words!!
she is right…yours rocks….wow!!!
awh thank you! i’ll credit it to my rumbling belly… it spurred me on… 😉
Someone commented on my swan poem yesterday about the fact that the line “fell” through the poem. It seemed contradictory, in a way, as they were in fact “rising” to migrate. Made me think you could reverse the refrain if you wanted to by starting with it as the last line of stanza 1 and raising it up each time to be the first line of the last stanza. It goes against the French tradition, of course, yet would make for a very different and possibly daring story line, but it might be interesting I think.
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I really enjoy these old-fashioned forms, Gay…I feel like I go back in time when I start writing. I loved Madeleine’s poem…great job. See, I knew you could write something beside limericks! And the second example…just beautiful. Thank you, Gay.
LOL! Thanks Bodhirose! Actually, my specialty used to be 600-word humor columns. But limericks are a whole lot quicker. 🙂
Would love to see some of those columns, Madeleine…you have a superb sense of humor and you’ll use it on any subject (well, maybe almost any). 🙂
Love the form and Mad’s poem…both of them, for that matter. Not sure if I’ll be able to join today but have an idea to rewrite a so-so poem I haven’t posted. If I can’t make it today, I will try to bring it to OLN on Tuesday.
Thanks for the lovely form Gay, it was not too difficult to follow. The two examples helped a lot ~
Just arrived from the office and will check out the linked poems ~
Happy Thursday ~
I’ll be looking for it. It’s hard to work, live, write, and comment. Thanks for all you give to this site – Heaven!
smiles…she’s actually guest hosting OLN next week as well…smiles.
EXCELLENT choice, Brian. I’ll be there with bells on barring life’s interruptions! I might write another quatern, who knows?!
A challenge to juggle things but you and the rest of the D’verse team have been instrumental in my learning the craft. Thanks for your patience and support to all of us ~ Please do write another quartern, its a lovely form ~
Brian, thanks for the invite ~
Thank you Gay for this challenge. I think it is so cool when a number of poets write close to the same theme. But I have currrently read all posted poems, and now I must prepare to watch The X-Factor on your US television. I know that seems shallow, but I love all the singing shows, even though my favorites never win. The Voice sent my fav packing earlier this week. I hope tonight is better. I like all art, written art is not natural to me, being a musician all my life, so I enjoy this site. I also cannot sing, and enjoy listening to those who do, and brave these shows to do so. Anyway, enough rambling. I read some very good poetry tonight and that is a good thing. Life gets a lil slower around holidays, so we get a chance to do some things we normally wouldn’t get to. TMI, right? LOL or smiles as it is said here:)
you are not alone man…i have last nights on DVR…vino was a fav of mine…and the other guy that sounded a bit like bruno mars…my favs seldom make it…enjoy doing what you dont get to do always man…smiles….and i could never have guessed you could not sing by your lyrical pieces man, seriously….
I loved Amanda Brown! But there were many good ones this time.
Hi, gone for rhyme, meter and saucy. So now way, way past my bedtime. Will catch up with folks tomorrow when I can
Thanks John – It is certainly late there! Appreciate you stayed up late to write and link! Enjoyed your quirky quatern – it was clever and fun!
Hi Gay – thanks, I enjoyed these. Great great examples Madeleine and Juli! Really terrific. (Sorry, if I’m spelling Mad’s name wrong.) Anyway, a very interesting form. Mine is a bit rough and I used a pentameter line – I just had to go with what came somewhat naturally – for me that’s pentameter. Thanks. k.
What a magnificent piece you wrote! I think the line length made yours. I liked it in my piece yesterday “Left In Coole” which I think was more succesful than the one for today. Thank you so much for your contribution!
I agree – at least I liked the Coole one a bit better. The longer line in English allows for a bigger scale somehow, and more variation of rhythm. (I also just find it hard to be consistent in feet number in a short line). Thanks much for your kind words. k.
I am still working on my quatern, Gay, it is quite an interesting process!
I’m a really slow writer, so I’m not sure I’ll make the deadline, but wanted to stop and say how much I enjoyed the article – what a great choice of a form, I love these French structures!
And the poems you chose by Madeleine (almost as fun as her limericks) and Judi (pensive romanticism) are perfect examples.
Cheers!
Thanks very much Sam!
Sam, I think you’ll be surprised when you find your refrain how effortless this particular form is. I think it will ideally suit your voice. Looking forward to reading one of yours whenever it comes along. Thank you!
i agree with gay sam..i think it fits your voice perfectly…there seems to be iambic blood running in your veins…smiles
Thank you for this prompt. I am learning a lot. My first draft had just 7 syllables to a line. Would it still pass as a quatern if the lines do not have the usual 8. I am clueless about the meter. I cannot tell one from the other even if my life depends on it. So, I do not know if I meet the meter requirement part. Yet I tried and had fun trying. 🙂
By the way, your poem is enjoyable to the ears.
If 7 works for you and your feel it’s your voice, then of course it’s OK. Karin just wrote one in iambic pent (10 syllables) and mine yesterday was in that rhythm too. Hers was Great and couldn’t have been done in any other length!
Perhaps in the new year we will cover rhythms again if there’s any interest – you know that stuff about iambs, trochees, anapests, dactyls, and spondees. Let me know one way or another..tweet me @beachanny if you are interested. Or drop a note to one of us on the staff.
I like this post but short on time, my poem is short on line. See I’m into the rhyme, better if I’d just added another line. I asked my daughter what I should write about and she said music, so somehow my mind, combined.
nice, nice, nice…just made my round through the overnites…much enjoyed your verse…now off to work and see ya in the evening.. have a wonderful friday everyone…
I’ve been here all the while you’ve been snoozing Claudia – that’s just kinda weird! But cool too. I’ll be sleeping while you’re working. That’s how the earth works apparently!
Neat form Gay. Thanks for hosting and presenting it to us. Great article. It was fun. Just enough of a challenge to pique the puzzle masters in us yet not so difficult that it creates frustration. Can’t wait to see the others linked up.
I wrote a sort of Philly tour, taking a break from the overly emotional while enjoying the seriousness of so many. My delight is the models you use in your essay, Gay! They inspired me to try the form.
If I tour Philly streets as much as I would like, I may start noticing people and conversations true and then try on a Brian-style poem!
(TOO, not true!)
ha. you would do well with it…smiles…been a while since i was in philli…hope you included a street vendor so i can get a snack as i read….haha…
This form has produced some fabulous examples – many from people who don’t “do” form! I’ve read most of what has been posted so far, and am seriously impressed. I shall have to use the quatern more often.
I hadn’t met the quatern until now. I really like the form. It’s early days for judgement but I’m putting it on a par with the sonnet. Will be back later to see what others have done.
your quatern was outstanding – loved it to bits!
Thanks, Gay. This is my second Quatern.
I love jumping around reading the Quaterns by others exactly because they are constrained: they take effort. The temptation to use “Free Form” as an excuse to just ramble, throw stuff together under the cloak of sacred poetry even when incomprehensible is hindered by “Form”. Mind you, I have discovered free form poetry that I love — but the former seems to abound. But maybe even over time that will ring true to me.
Besides, the number of linking poets is actually manageable! 🙂
I remember when I started graduate school in Philosophy that I shuddered at the awful writing of philosophers in journals. But after several years, I actually enjoyed the writing. Did I finally grow to see the beauty I earlier missed, or did I just get use to bad writing? I doubt I will ever know. (though you can tell I have my suspicions) 😉
Thanx again. Great exercise!
I’m a bit of a neanderthal when it comes to the different structures and aspects of poetry from a formal perspective. I believe, however, that my mind tends to assume a quaternish direction and so I kind of felt at home.
..ah yes.. i’m in… just got home from work and wrote a simple poem ’bout some busy little feet… and i enjoyed the rhymes…hihi…thank you dVerse and Gay for featuring Quatern…. 🙂
Good day!
nice…cant wait to read it…be over in a minute…
Just waking up here with morning coffee. So happy to note new poems posted since I last read. Will be around to read through the day today. Have some errands and phone calls to make but I’m eager to get started reading. Really like the way this form expands for a wide range of topics and emotions. It’s quite an adaptable form. I like it a lot!
Just want to take a minute… to thank you all. Ever since I found the Pub, I not only enjoyed the company of amazing poets, but I am so grateful for the inspiration you give me. I’ve developed a lot since I first came here. You all are exceptional artists. With every prompt, I am enriched – not only as a writer, but as a person… and I have to admit, more than one box of tissues has vanished while reading your wonderful poetry.
I am incredibly thankful for all of you… all the voices participating, all the contrasts you present, all the emotions you put on display – and invoke in me.
This Pub is just amazing.
… and now as a ‘futile’ attempt to not let this turn into a sobfest (for me), i’ll raid the bar for pretzels, since it’s way too early for beer. 😉
Thank you… you rock!!
smiles…glad you’re enjoying the pub and the company of all the awesome poets… cheers to that
I know my colleagues will join me in saying we are so happy you have found us and we have come to know you and your work. That’s what we set out to do – to build a community of support, knowledge, information and sharing. This site lives up to those goals every day through the combined efforts of our crew and visitors. We have all grown through mutual effort and shared experiences. We are so glad you are here!
just coming into the door…long day at work but will be nice to read a few quaterns and relax a bit…smiles
Always good to have you back in the pub Claudia – I’ll get you a hot chocolate to unwind!
hmmm…hot chocolate sounds wonderful…
Life going crazy , but still managed to sneak one in. hope everyone is well!
I enjoy these Thursday exercises,Gay; not sure I gave this one my all but at least attempted it…time to let my muse have a little rest 😉
maybe the muse and you want to join us for a hot chocolate…? smiles
The responses to this wonderful prompt put the lie to the theory that our language does not lend itself to syllabics ~ thank you Gay
..good morning.. aww i fell asleep early last night now returning back to read more Quaterns… ok ok…have an inspiring Saturday morn to all ( or just’to me’)…hihi.. XD
Missed it by 37 minutes. (sigh)
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I’m too late to link up but I did give it a try. What an interesting form, thanks. I’ll try to be quicker next time!