Hello everyone. I’m most honored to be your guest hostess for today and appreciate the invitation to present to you for Form-For-All…one of my favorite prompts. I’m Gayle Rose and I will be guiding you in creating another form of poetry known as the Palindrome. And if you’ve ever felt like you don’t know whether you’re coming or going, you’re at the right place… and either direction will get you where you need to go!
As I began my research for this seemingly benign and “tame” form of poetry, little did I know that it had such a risqué beginning. See if you’re as surprised as I was…
It is believed that this form was first used by Sotades, a third century B.C. Greek poet. He was considered a cynic philosopher. Apparently, he was known as one of the premier writers of obscene and pederastic, satirical poems (those written regarding the homosexual relationships between an older man and an adolescent boy) called Kinaidoi. These were composed in the Ionic dialect of Ancient Greek and in the “sotadic” meter which was so named after him. These type words and verses are also known as palindromic from the Greek words, “palin” meaning “again, or back” and “dromos” meaning “recurring, or running” which gives us “running back again.” Here is a popular example: “Llewd did I live, and evil I did dwell.” It reads the same forward and backward by letter.
Sotades also spent time in prison…before escaping but ultimately meeting his end…for insulting the reigning, Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Egypt, for marrying his own sister, Arsinoe. I won’t quote the offending line here as it may be upsetting to some but I personally can appreciate his scurrilous humor in this instance.
This type of poetry was quite popular in the 1800s and was used as games by the too-much-time-on-their-hands wealthy. However, as times changed it was forgotten but resurfaced in the literary world during the 1930s and has since been a popular challenge for many writers.
Palindromes can be written to be read forward and backward using words, by letter or by the line. A word palindrome is created when words (rather than letters) are used, as in: “So Patient A Doctor to Doctor a Patient So.” Singular word palindrome examples: civic, level, kayak, pop, refer, radar, minim, tenet, rotor, and sexes. Some additional letter phrases are here:
A man, a plan, a canal–Panama!
Able was I ere I saw Elba.
Too bad–I hid a boot.
Do geese see God?
Drab as a fool, aloof as a bard.
The following is the only letter or character poem that I came upon:
By Hubert Phillips
Mood’s mode!
Pallas, I won!
(Diaper pane, sold entire.)
Melt till ever sere, hide it.
Drown a more vile note;
(Tar of rennet.)
Ah, trowel, baton, eras ago.
The reward? A “nisi.” Two nag.
Otary tastes putrid, yam was green.
Odes up and on; stare we.
Rats nod. Nap used one-erg saw.
(May dirt upset satyr?)
A toga now; ’tis in a drawer, eh?
Togas are notable.
(Worth a tenner for Ate`.)
Tone liver. O Man, word-tied I.
Here’s revel!
Little merit, Ned? Lose, Nap?
Repaid now is all apedom’s doom.
I offer a palindrome poem that I wrote as an example for the line format:
Unchanged
by Gayle Walters Rose
All Rights Reserved
Unchanged
remains spirit–
joyful, unfettered, liberated,
forever free, and unchained,
deathless and limitless–
unbounded elation through delight.
Being peaceful brings awareness.
~conscious~
Awareness brings peaceful being.
Delight through elation unbounded
limitless and deathless–
unchained and free forever,
liberated, unfettered, joyful–
spirit remains
unchanged.
Line palindrome poetry uses a central focus word to delineate the beginning of reading the poem in reverse. Most commonly, the line format is used in writing poetry.
So the task at hand today: Write a palindromic poem. There is no minimum number of lines. Using the same words that you wrote forward, reverse the poem in the second half. (Yes, it should make sense both ways.) Use a “bridging” word in the middle. If you have any questions, please let me know in the comment section…I’ll answer them as best I can.
if you would like to embed a palindrome or two in a piece using whatever form you would like, that is fair game as well.
- Write your poem and post to your blog or webpage.
- Add a link back to dVerse Poets to share with others.
- Copy and paste your poem’s URL to Mr. Linky and add your name in the space provided
- Visit and read your fellow poets’ work
- Enjoy yourself!
Can’t wait to see what you create!
Gayle ~
Bodhirose said:
Hello all…so happy to be here as your hostess today!
Laurie Kolp said:
Palindromes are little boogers to write… but thanks for this challenge, Gayle. Happy to see you up there!
Bodhirose said:
You are so right, Laurie…but fun when you get it all together. Thank you for the warm welcome, Laurie!
brian miller said:
haha yes they are….
Heaven (@asweetlust) said:
A very challenging poetry form ~ Thank you Gayle ~
I will be around to comment & return visits when I get home ~
Happy day to everyone ~
Grace
Bodhirose said:
Glad you joined in, Grace….I’m so happy to be here in this capacity! Happy day…
Tony Maude said:
I so want to play … but these are really hard to get your head around, or at least that’s what i’ve found. Nice to see you hosting, Gayle.
brian miller said:
smiles….you got 33 hours to wrap your head around it tony…smiles….today a better day?
Tony Maude said:
Today’s the worst anniversary of the lot, but it’s not been too bad. Tomorrow I get to celebrate a year since I didn’t die from a sub-arachnoid haemorrhage 🙂
Bodhirose said:
Brian, I sent you some emails….please check!
Bodhirose said:
Hope you’ll give it a try, Tony. I’m glad you’re around to celebrate another anniversary of survival too.
Tony Maude said:
Well, I had something hiding in my drafts folder, waiting for an appropriate time. Now I just need to actually try to meet the challenge of your prompt 🙂
brian miller said:
woot!
brian miller said:
gayle, this was one of the hardest things i ever did…ha.
i will say if you need a kicker to get started…if you google ‘palindrome list’
it will help you get some ideas….
Bodhirose said:
You managed beautifully, Brian…I am so impressed. I too got help from that palindrome list.
Brian, please check your email…I sent you a note!
brian miller said:
on it…gimme a sec…
Martin Shone said:
Hello, Gayle, all too tongue-twisty for me I’m afraid, but good luck to all who try 🙂 Interesting write though!
Bodhirose said:
Oh, wish you were joining in, Martin. Maybe if you read a few you’ll get inspired to give it a try.
Martin Shone said:
I might need a Guinness or two to straighten my brain out first ha!
Eric said:
Weird Al Yankovic did a clever song called “Bob” that was composed entirely of palindromes. Check it out!
Bodhirose said:
I saw this too. Pretty amazing, huh?
Gayle ~
Eric said:
Lots of people don’t know that he’s a very intelligent person. They see him singing ‘silly parodies’ and dismiss his cleverness. (But we know better!)
Bodhirose said:
Yes, I would agree…brilliant talent.
claudia said:
good evening everyone…just coming in from a business dinner and will be out on the trail in a minute to catch up… a wonderful article gayle and a big challenge as well
Bodhirose said:
I love what you wrote, Claudia…as always.
We’ve got some good brain power in this group…I think they’re up for the challenge.
claudia said:
yeah, we def. have some good brain power in this group..
aprille said:
What an incredible post, Gayle.
This is all far more compicated than I first thought, with great possibilities.
And your poem is an absolute gem.
Bodhirose said:
You are very kind, Aprille…I appreciate that. Yes, once you get into it..it’s not as easy as it might appear. Thank you for a wonderful offering today.
myrthryn said:
Tricky, tricky… I reversed mine word for word with the turn (Volta) being letter for letter..plus kept the tricky thing in rhyming couplets..
A hell of a prompt, here. Couldn’t pass it up!
Bodhirose said:
So glad you were up for the challenge, Myrthryn! You did an amazing job of it…totally impressed!
Bodhirose said:
Have to get in the kitchen…will be back later to read some more.
Victoria C. Slotto said:
Gayle, it’s wonderful to have you tending the bar. You’ve definitely given us a challenge. I’ve been out most of today and will be much of tomorrow. I’ll try and if I don’t get it done for MTB will try to hook one up to OLN. My favorite cop-out. Thanks for tickling our brains.
Bodhirose said:
Thanks so much for a warm welcome, Victoria. Yes, it’s a tough one….and hey, I’ve used that same “cop-out” before. It’s totally acceptable when you run out of time.
Victoria C. Slotto said:
I made it!! Have no idea where this came from. It’s not superb poetry but more like a public service message. I’ll return in between happening tomorrow to read. Really quite fun!
Bodhirose said:
I love what you came up with, Victoria…sobering but excellent palindrome work!
ninotaziz said:
Hi Gayle,
I actually linked back to dVerse! The second link is to my palindrome. Sorry!
Bodhirose said:
I noticed that, Nino… Did not find a second link though…I’ll go check again.
Gayle ~
brian miller said:
i got rid of th first one for you ninot.
rmp said:
palindromes (particularly in number — seeing as how I am a math minded person) have always fascinated me. when I first came across it in poetry, I thought it absolutely crazy (especially the letter version). it took some convincing on my part, but eventually I put one together. since I have created a sum total of three, which I have pretty much concluded at this point is more than enough. I do definitely look forward to reading some of the creations that arise from this pesky form.
Bodhirose said:
Yeah, definitely can relate to the peskiness of this form…and am glad you chose to do one more for this prompt before calling it quits. It is fun to see what people came up with so go ahead and enjoy.
Gayle ~
brian miller said:
you should link one of yours….
Sabio Lantz said:
I jotted this down at work today after seeing your prompt. Wish I could do so much more — but the word puzzle is very tough. Well, tough to actually have it make some sense — but it was very good fun. So because mine is embarrassingly sloppy, I added a bit of graphics and playfulness to spice it up. Besides, I had to participate BodhiRose’s prompt! Thanx. I will reading tomorrow when my mind is a bit more awake — ’tis late. Good night.
Bodhirose said:
Sabio, you can make it easy on yourself and add some word or line palindromes to a regular poem that you come up with. And thank you for wanting to participate in my prompt…I really appreciate that. Good night…will catch you tomorrow.
claudia said:
good morning…just crawling out of bed and catching up with the overnites..
heidi said:
Good morning Claudia!
Victoria C. Slotto said:
Good morning to you…good night out here in the wild west.
heidi said:
Hi Gayle! I hadn’t planned on participating (I had already written a poem for NaPoWriMo and I am still learning how to pace myself) but this was too tempting! I have been trying learn poetry forms and when I read about palindromes a couple of months ago, I thought, “too hard.” Your prompt made it seem like so much fun (and it was) and I found a palindrome with lasagna in it…how could I resist? Thanks for the awesome prompt!
Bodhirose said:
Hi Heidi! I’m so happy to hear that you wanted to join in with the fun…they are fun aren’t they… Thanks for taking the plunge!
Lila said:
Oh, this is a hard one! Interesting. I think I already have a qualified post on my blog. I’ll wait though and see if I write a much better poem before linking it to this theme.
Bodhirose said:
I won’t deny that it is tricky to execute, Lila…but you could find a list (I should have linked one) of palindromes and take your pick of which ones to incorporate into your poem. Even better if you have one already done.
Gayle ~
Sharp Little Pencil said:
Gayle, I must take exception to a detail in your article. You spoke of pederasty as being the relationship between “a homosexual man and a small boy.” In fact, pederasty is almost always performed by man who self-identify as STRAIGHT. It’s a common misconception that, if there is a gay man around, you should hide your little male children.
Pederasty was about control, the need to assert power over a smaller, weaker one. The fact that is was boys does not matter. My father practiced it on me, and again, he was straight.
As an LGBTQ ally, I felt strongly that I should comment. The prompt itself is great fun, although I think I lack brain cells to do it! Peace, Amy
Sabio Lantz said:
Hey Pencil,
Thanx for the correction — I’ve always wondered about that since it has always been very hard for me to understand. Some of the worse things we humans can do, I can indeed understand but that one has escaped me. I know lots of me (and even women) who like control over smaller, weaker ones and yet they don’t rape. There must be some other factor, no? Like some part of their brain circuits that have to do with sex also being affected. Maybe you should go edit the wiki article on Sotades from whence Gayle pulled those lines about “pederastic”.
Bodhirose said:
I completely understand what you’re saying, Amy. A big difference. I did look up that word and that was the meaning that was given. I stand corrected and appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Thank you, Amy.
Gayle ~
Sharp Little Pencil said:
Gayle, thanks for your gracious reply. Sabio, the little Amymeister may well do what you suggest! Did you know that newer translations of the Bible erroneously (and for their own twisted reasons) often replace “pederast” with “homosexual.” I mean, the second word was not even coined until the 1860s. Until then, men always married to keep the bloodline going and then were on the “down low,” just like today!!
Thanks for the validation, folks, because it’s a difficult distinction. DId you know 93% of child molestors (pre-pubscent kids) identify as STRAIGHT? And that includes my own father, so… Thanks. Amy
Bodhirose said:
One last sweep through the bar and found two more poets to visit and saw your response here, Amy. I would encourage you to make that change too…although I guess I could too. I watched an Oprah show once where she had men (married, straight) who lived on the “down low.” I guess this behavior has been going on since there have been men. I’m a supporter for the rights of all people…I don’t care who, what, how you are labeled. And just why do we feel the need to make these distinctions anyway…well…I could go on and on but I won’t…
Peace,
Gayle
MarinaSofia said:
Wow, now that’s challenging! Am surprised there are 21 links to it, really. I don’t think I’ll be able to think of one, but I certainly will check out what the others have written.
Bodhirose said:
It is challenging but fun to figure out, Marina. If you find a list of palindromes online you can then incorporate some of them into any poem that you come up with. See mine as an example if you would like.
Cressida de Nova said:
Not one of my favourite forms and fiendishly difficult so I wrote a tercet poem and every last line is a palindrome( easy way out:)
Bodhirose said:
Totally acceptable, Cressida…thanks for joining in with the fun.
Cressida de Nova said:
Please explain why you think my plaindrome lines can only be read in one direction
1 time flies fast
2. shoe fitting silk
3 still nice though
Bodhirose said:
Cressida, it’s not that they can’t be read in both directions, it’s because they need to be WRITTEN in both directions…as I understand it. I’m no expert so perhaps more research would prove you perfectly correct.
Does anyone else have an opinion on this? I am open to being corrected.
Gayle
Bodhirose said:
Cressida…I’m still mulling this over…I don’t think my response to you was correct.
Bodhirose said:
A public apology to Cressida…your palindromes were done correctly.
Cressida de Nova said:
Thank you. Your apology is accepted!
Imelda said:
Wow! What a very interesting and difficult challenge.
Bodhirose said:
I hope you’ll read a few, Imelda, and find that you can give it a go. Would love to see what you come up with.
Gayle ~
charlesmashburn said:
Back in the late seventies, I was a high-lead logger in the mountains of western Washington. My short career as a woodsman ended abrubtly when a huge tree fell on my leg. I mention this to point out that it was during my lengthy healing period that I discovered pain killers and beer do not mix, and as a result was tossed out of the only bar in town. It wasn’t the first, or only, time I’ve ever been booted , but it was the only time I was ever banned from returning to an establishment. I did, however, manage to plead my case to the owner and was granted a reprieve.
I tell this story because I have posted a poem today which in no way shape or form fits the prompt for this week’s Poetics feature. So, in advance, if I get booted for this dastardly deed, I would like to request an audience with the owners!
Seriously, I just wanted to share this special day, and poem, with my friends here at the pub. But, if it, and I, must go, I fully understand. 🙂
Bodhirose said:
No way will you be booted, Charles! A great story though to make your case…
charlesmashburn said:
Whew! Thanks! This is not only my favorite pub, but the only one I hang out at! In fact, it might as well be the only one in town!
Bodhirose said:
Same here, Charles…
dragyonfly said:
Im limited on my word pallindromes,( too much like algebra!! I decided I didn’t like math when the alphabet got involved…LOL)
BUT SERIOUSLY…ok, I keep looking for a badge or a link to place on my blogspot page. to link me up over here….Any suggestions? I notice many of you have one but even when i try to use yours it doesn’t work…..I guess im not really link savvy….. Even if it type it out it doesn’t link….is there a links page or a badge i can use? HELP?
Bodhirose said:
Dragyonfly, I see that you found your way to the Mister Linky (above) and linked in your entry. Holler if you need any other help…
Gayle ~
claudia said:
hey… back from an all day business trip and at least managed to return comments before i fall asleep….so…smiles.. happy friday everyone
claudia said:
…and thanks gayle for the wonderful job in commenting on people’s work but also interacting in the comment section… wish i could’ve been around a bit more but was just a tight schedule the last two days… now def. off to bed..smiles
Bodhirose said:
Good night to you, Claudia…sounds like you need a good rest. Thank you for your support and I was very happy with the number of people who gave this form a try and was equally happy commenting to everyone. Made me feel good…smiles.
Bodhirose said:
Thank you, Brian, for your support and confidence in me…I so appreciate that.
Lila said:
I finally wrote something remotely related to this theme. I did my best, but reading other’s poems really inspired me to write it. Thanks everyone.
Bodhirose said:
Glad you were inspired, Lila…yours was a powerful write. Thanks for joining in.
Gayle ~
charityv said:
Enjoyed the poetic challenges, and the talk around the bar. Great poems, and stories share here!
Bodhirose said:
Really liked your two offerings, Charity…well done with strong topics. Thank you for participating.
Gayle ~
Michele D'Acosta said:
Thank you for inspiring me with your brilliance. I’m going to give it a go…