Hello Everyone. This is Gay Cannon and I will be your host today for Meeting The Bar and I had planned to talk about Jazz and Beat poetry. These poets were very much in vogue as I became aware of poetry and I think for various reasons had a strong effect on me and provided some inspiration for me. However, even though I believe in many ways these poets and their poetry are linked, I think I will cover them in two separate articles.I’m not sure one could say this is form poetry. Jazz poetry, if it is a form, is loose, improvisational, yet rhythmic, much like the style of music it is named for.
Jazz itself came out of three distinct musical forms – barrel house piano, a kind of stride piano music played in brothels in Galveston and New Orleans; work songs which culminated in that distinctive flat-box guitar music born in the Mississippi delta; and both Black and White gospel music. When these things fused in New Orleans and Memphis, we had the beginnings of the genre, a uniquely American one. Made popular by Louis Armstrong, Kid Ory, Jelly Roll Morton, W.B. Handy, and many others. Jazz moved to funky Chicago, got slick in New York, ultimately went cool in San Francisco.
There is a bit of a divide as just who are considered jazz poets. Jazz appeared popularly around the turn of the twentieth century. I think it is generally agreed that Langston Hughes was the first consciously self-proclaimed Jazz Poet, although there are some who make the case for it to have been Edgar Allen Poe. However, Poe(and Vachel Lindsay) would have had a different kind of drum beating in their ears.
Certainly Hughes made the case for Jazz Poetry as emanating from the same place that Jazz music did and going by the name of Jazz. Blues and blues variations are considered one of the earliest manifestations of Jazz music and Langston Hughes echoed that structure in his poetry. “Hughes must be considered the founder of the jazz poetry genre, for none of the jazz-related poets who preceded him merged the two art forms, as he did. The respect and success that Hughes was given reflected on jazz music and its legitimacy as an important style of music.”(http://goo.gl/tScrTR)
from The Weary Blues, by Langston Hughes:
Droning a drowsy syncopated tune,
Rocking back and forth to a mellow croon,
I heard a Negro play.
Down on Lenox Avenue the other night
By the pale dull pallor of an old gas light
He did a lazy sway . . .
He did a lazy sway . . .
To the tune o’ those Weary Blues.
Jazz at the Philharmonic
I crisscrossed with Monk
Wailed with Bud
Counted every star with Stitt
Sang “Don’t Blame Me” with Sarah
Wore a flower like Billie
Screamed in the range of Dinah
& scatted “How High the Moon” with Ella Fitzgerald
as she blew roof off the Shrine Auditorium
from Jazz Fan Looks Back, by Jayne Cortez
Poets in the Jazz tradition include: Amiri Baraka, Marvin Bell, Sterling Brown, Hayden Carruth, Jayne Cortez, Michael S. Harper, Langston Hughes, Jack Kerouac, Yusef Komunyaaka, Mina Loy, Kenneth Rexroth, and Sonia Sanchez. – Every April, the Smithsonian produces a Jazz Poetry event as part of JAM and National Poetry Month. – See more at: http://goo.gl/SpwYPY
Wiki-Media says this: “ During the 1920s, several poets began to eschew the conventions of rhythm and style; among these were Ezra Pound, T. S. Eliot, and E. E. Cummings. The significance of the simultaneous evolution of poetry and jazz during the 1920s was apparent to many poets of the era, resulting in the merging of the two art forms into jazz poetry. Jazz poetry has long been something of an “outsider” art form that exists somewhere outside the mainstream, having been conceived in the 1920s by African-Americans, maintained in the 1950s by counterculture poets like those of the Beat generation, and adapted in modern times into hip-hop music and live poetry events known as poetry slams.”
It seems jazz poems can be considered such if they do one of three things:
A) Sounds like jazz — using onomatopoeia, jazz beats or rhythms,or musical sounds.
B) Can be read with jazz music or counterpoint to it.
C) Refers to jazz music or jazz musicians..
Here is a jazz take by e.e. cummings:
God Pity Me Whom (God Distinctly Has)
god pity me whom(god distinctly has)
the weightless svelte drifting sexual feather
of your shall i say body? follows
truly through a dribbling moan of jazz
whose arched occasional stepped youth swallows
curvingly the keeness of my hips;
or, your first twitch of crisp boy flesh dips
my height in a firm fragile stinging weather,
(breathless with sharp necessary lips) kid
female cracksman of the nifty, ruffian-rogue,
laughing body with wise breasts half-grown,
lisping flesh quick to thread the fattish drone
of I Want a Doll,
wispish-agile feet with slid
steps parting the tousle of saxophonic brogue.
Perhaps a case can be made that all poetry is better performed aloud (and with an audience.) Certainly it seems that as an audience informs the improvisational aspect of Jazz Music, it probably has a similar effect on live performances of poetry. Several of the poets who link to dVersePoets could speak to this better than I can and I invite them to do so in the comments.
Vernon Frazer on his blog Bellicose Warbling makes a case for a closer construct of Jazz music and poetry: “Personally, I recommend that poets who want to work with musicians learn something about music and vice-versa. The poet Ottone M. Riccio put a fresh spin on Ezra Pound’s famous dictum when he asserted, “Poetry is music made with language.”
“To make an effective fusion, poets and musicians need to know something about the idioms they’re trying to fuse. A poet doesn’t need to be a musician to work effectively in the idiom, but he needs to understand basic rhythm and pay attention to phrasing the lines of the poem. The musicians should recognize that a poet can’t recite comfortably at certain tempos and count off tempi that don’t twist the poet’s tongue in mid-performance. It should also build its tunes so that the musicians are playing at peak intensity during the poem’s climatic moments, instead of winding down. Knowing the poem will help the musicians create the appropriate dynamics. Grasping the rudiments of the other’s idiom helps both execute the fusion more effectively.”
It is my opinion that I see a good bit of jazz poetry every week. Both Claudia and Brian write poems that I think can be defined that way and I have asked them to allow me to use links to ones they want to share today:
Claudia has kindly offered a jazz sonnet: for 8 missed beats you get a major 7 (that’s a fair deal,right?)
and Brian asked me to choose between these; I couldn’t so I think you should: One Shot: four tokes, inhaled and use of the horn is only in the case of emergency . Thanks to both of you!
This week link with Mr. Linky, either a jazz poem you’ve already written; or try your hand at doing something rhythmic, using onomatopoeia, alliteration, internal rhymes, half rhymes, or no rhymes – using spacing, word play, or implication of meaning through juxtaposition of the words, or as e. e. cummings did by running words together: e.g.:
Buffalo Bill ‘s defunct
who used to ride a watersmooth-silver stallion
and break onetwothreefourfive pigeons justlikethat
Jesus he was a handsome man and
what i want to know is
how do you like your blueeyedboy Mister Death
Welcome to the pub – turning toward autumn today – there’s tea, toddies, and cold drinks on hand. We’ve got jazz playing in the background. Picked a mix today – a little Miles, a little Coltrane, some 40s big bands, some rags by Scott Joplin, some Lightnin’ Hopkins blues, a lot of Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday and maybe I’ll throw in “Gimme a Pigfoot” by Bessie Smith to round it out. Have fun y’all. We’re writin’ Jazz and havin’ fun!
woohooooo!!! smiles
gay…i loved your piece today….even after catching up the lines i pointed out to you int he comment i can still hear them….
Ah, that makes me so happy!
I really enjoyed playing around with this Gay.. so far from what I usually write… stretching myself a little.. and it helped listening to jazz while writing…
ah and you did very well björn
Yes, Bjorn, you slipped on a jazz mask and dark shades & a pork pie hat, a thin black tie with bourbon stains on your white shirt; really enjoyed your poem, sir.
you did well sir…and stretching is good….i dropped a bit of jazz into the player and just let it have me when i wrote mine…
Loved yours Bjorn. Truly jazzy and unique.
very cool article gay – i’m learning so much from you – really appreciate what you’re doing – and jazz is so where i find your voice explicitly strong as well… i love Langston Hughes’ poetry…have his whole collection and he deaf is a master in hitting the mood of a moment like in the above example…
hey – we should have a little jam session gay – you at the piano – i’m getting my sax – we gonna ask steve to bring his violin…smiles…that would be much fun….smiles
Coolsville Claudia – I’ve been practicing – maybe some left hand boogie riffs – gotta keep the fingers limber!
A lot of information to gather here… Thank you for sharing. Poetry and music has so much in common… I loved reading how the two can be collaborated, if efforts be made.
Jazz is special to me. So I just wrote whatever was tuned out of me. 🙂
poetry and music do share a common ancestry and influence on each other….and think too of what came out of jazz….rap and beat poetry…gill-scott is one…ferlinghetti plays in….
Very interesting article, Gay! I’d never really heard the term ‘jazz poetry’ unti you mentioned it. Now I find it fascinating.
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It is selfish & audacious of me, Gay, but I linked up my new jazz poem ( & thanks for the incredible comment, dear lady), and added one of my older jazz poems all about Dexter Gordon and AROUND MIDNIGHT. Forgive me, but you put me in the sharing and improvising mood; can you dig it?
Totally – I can indeed!
I am very excited to work with this – I’m going experimental and using some new music from Dave to do a recording. I’ll be back when it’s all written and performed. Incredible prompt, awfully inspiring!
oh wow… that sounds awesome….looking forward to this anna
Me too! I’m sure you’ll grab all the texture, color and rhythms in your excellent verse!
oo la that sounds fun anna….
Thanks Claudia and Gay, hours later I have something :). Futuristic jazz inspired by afrofuturism, Janelle Monae and Jean-Michel Basquiat.
..you’ve missed a lot the past few weeks i guess…look on my recent list and you will see
…as long as the pieces are written and scheduled, the phone is just as good…i can reply, comment but its too difficult to write on the phone…i have a tablet too so its like im stiil at home on my pc.
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I certainly do agree that a very strong case can be made that all poetry is strengthened when read aloud to an audience, albeit it does not lessen the impact of the first read with just the rawness and newness of the words in your own head, in your own voice. As you know, I have included my taped recitation of over 400 of my poems now on my blog.
I do know – and I have done some of mine with prompting from a few of my friends. I have never read aloud at a jazz or poetry jam though. I know some others have. Would like to hear about those experiences for sure.
just brings to mind Robin Williams in MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON, or Gene Hackman in THE CONVERSATION, sitting in their window blowing on their sax; and it was introspection, not for the public, and yet it fleshed out their character for us; a sax playing in the forest by itself, serenading the beasts & bugs, brings tears to my cheeks, & an ache in my chest.
by the way… believe it or not – i have a gay cannon playlist on my iphone with hundreds of wonderful jazz pieces… gay gave it to me when we met in london….some of them aren’t even available really anymore…so this is a special treasure and treat to listen to them… thanks again gay…smiles
Cool.. I linked up Miles Davis on Spotify and just looped it… would be interesting to see that playlist…
Ah I remember – silly me I left it across town and had had had to get it to you before we parted (or was it just an excuse to see you again?) I’m glad you love it. It’s just for you!
So difficult. I never knuckled under and try to understand this. Glad you nudged me into this. I have to try and ‘get it’ by means of the philological side of the concept first. The tango, is that included in syncope sounds?
Well capturing a tango is certainly a musical possibility and related to what we’re doing today. I checked there are some evocations of jazz in tango by way of improvisation and syncopation here:
and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27yYCDHnmU (this one Piazzola – the tango genius)
and others as well. So I say, “go for it”. 🙂
and found this by Django from the movie Chocolat – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpmOTGungnA&list=PLY0Pcdqk5d36Bcs2wOm2IQuihjJjmKNYb
Love this! I ended up writing a parody of Gershwin’s “I got rhythm”
Silly and fun but I grinned as I wrote it.
oh that sounds very cool beth… can’t wait to read…
Ah way cool. I’ve had a crush on Gershwin since I was three. I bought Rhapsody in Blue as soon as I started taking piano lessons. It was five years before I could play it (badly) but I banged hard and believed I was gr8!
🙂 I’m sure you were
how is the work coming at your house beth?
Who can ask for anything more!!! (hint)
i hate to go with all the jazz around in the pub today…but i need a bed…so tired… will be back in the morn after joshua redman woke me… you know…smiles…he is one of my fav tenor sax players and i have the first tunes of his song “faith” as my wake up call on my iphone… for years already…still bewitched with their gentleness and depth.. smiles…i know i’m strange sometimes… see you tomorrow… smiles
I will def look him up Claudia. Sweet dreams and we’ll see you on the “flip side”.
Thank you Gay for a very informative article and a great prompt!
What, you’ve never heard of a jazz-ku?!!! LOL — great prompt, Gay, an thank you for the post.
I’ve got a prize for you: © Sonia Sanchez – from: Wounded in the House of a Friend
Blues Haiku I
all this talk bout love
girl, where you been all your life?
ain’t no man can love
Blues Haiku II
ain’t no curves in his
talk girl can’t trust a man with
no curves on his tongue
How ’bout that?
ooooh, brilliant! thanks, Gay!
yay!!! Let’s get the party started…I’m in…:)
Jazz poetry gives advice to Nature and paper to write our thoughts. 🙂
flarf! you rock charlie!
Flarf forever! You rock my friend. 🙂
I ECHO that!
By now anyone who has read my poetry knows I’ve had a strange life. This prompt brought up very different thoughts than I imagine anyone else has. Hope it was okay to do that. First time I think I’ve expressed this particular trigger to the world. My husband loves jazz. He just listens to it when I’m gone or when he’s in his car without me. I know more people read my work than I am able to read myself…reciprocity. Please forgive me. I read until my eyes give out. And I shy away from long poetry because of the physical restraints. I appreciate all who read and have offered encouragement. You are a wonderful group of people. I’ve said that before and I mean it each time.
gay, excellent article…and so much fun…sorry i am just getting here…meeting after school today and will be playing catch up…
The party is always better when you’re here – but we know that other people require you too. Talkin’ at cha later, then.
ha. you are a treat gay…smiles….
If you want to save to your computer these gr8 youtubes on sites – this is for you to turn them into mp3s – http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
nice….yeah i have a converter i use to do that….def a cool trick….
I was married to a musician for six years before his death a little more than 40 years ago. I am not a musician but I would travel with the band sometimes and sit in on some of his jam sessions. I’m sure I don’t have the terminology right and it has been a long time but I tried to get the mood across. You can be the judge of that and if you have any helpful hints I’ll be glad to change whatever needs it.
‘m here, I’m here, smiles ~ Thanks for the informative article Gay ~ Still have a long way to learn to make my verses sing & dance to the jazzy beat, but I’m trying ~ Hitting the trail now ~
Happy day to everyone ~
So fun, Gay. I love smooth jazz and the idea of making poetry about it is great. I’d like to spend a bit more time working on something using this prompt in the future. In the meantime, I offer a haiku-like poem. So bring on the poetry and music.
Hey Victoria and Grace – come in – I’ll pour you one. Just added a dram of Bushmills to my coffee. Adding a bit of Irish to the Jazz 2NiTe!
Who was talkin’ about Pork Pie hat earlier? For y’all who don’t know that was Lester Young (who is still awesome) As a memorial Charlie Mingus wrote a tribute: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat. You can hear it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sfe_8RAaJ0
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Totally cool Gay – will work on something here.
Sorry I’m so late to the game. This week has been very hectic… but I know the remedy! http://lkkolp.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/silhouette/
grabbing cressida and hearding off to bed…thanks to those out on the trail tonight and not just dropping links & running…
Excuse me, Brian..I would like some notice before being grabbed and herded off to bed…wicked man!:))
Miles Davis is my jazz man…superb wonderful musician. Great prompt Gay! I could do lots of these in a heart beat. Am really looking forward to everyone’s work..have some time to read on the weekend.
hahahahaha…wow that came out wrong…lol…..
A very cool post, Gay. I am kind of under the gun and have a few ideas, but don’t know whether I’ll be able to do them. Jazz poetry is somehow peculiarly difficult for me, though I much admire it. Thanks for the inspiring examples and explanation. k.
Really love all the poetry out there tonight. I wish I could comment on some of those blogspot posts. For some reason, my comment disappears when I try. Well, I’ve enjoyed reading them anyway.
Great post, Gay! Thank you!
Oh Linda – thank you and so sorry you aren’t getting to post. That’s been happening to me a few times lately too. Maybe turning off your computer and back on again will fix it??? Thanks for reading though. I know we all appreciate it.
ah – didn’t want to get up this morning… cold and rainy day… looking forward to warm up a bit with my coffee and a bit of jazz poetry..
Oh I’ll trade weather with you…our “cooler” early summer has given way to a very hot September and we’re not getting the rain the rest of the state is. My yard is burned up. Still I wouldn’t want to ride a bike in the rain. Take care dear Claudia and we’ll catch up later in your day!
So happy so many of you linked. I’ll be back in the morning. Meant to read this evening but got a little sidetracked. See you then and there’s still time to write!
Ooh! I did enjoy that. Took me back to my teen years, mad on trad and the first concert I ever went to at Earls Court, with Louis Armstrong on a first date with the boy who became my first husband!
I’m sure there are jazz buffs in the group, so you will get a lot of feedback with this idea, Gay. It is a broad subject with so much history and variety! I’ve long been a fan of Hughes. I will leave a few comments but am gone all day tomorrow so it will be hit and miss.
This is a spectacular write! I grew up in the second Jazz Age, moments after the beats, my heroes, were in their glory. What a treat this is, brings back very youthful memories just as I was coming of age. Thank you.
Great into to jazz poetry Gay, I’ve never tried my hand at this before, but sure did enjoy it! Thanks!
Stayed up listening to Jazz and just now opening up the pub. I’ve got coffee on and I will get out on the trail to see what’s come in while I’ve been snoozing. I’ll be reading. Have to pick up some supplies this afternoon so I might be in & out but you know your way around – help yourself!
Couldn’t resist posting a short, short story I wrote years ago during a Jazz concert on a golf course. The people I describe are real…the story line is not. Don’t feel you need to read it. It’s about 1400 words. Just for fun.
i enjoyed the read…just that nipple part…ah….ouch…smiles
Hi Gay – very late to the pub with my response to your prompt, but here I am with my humble offering.
Just got back home – I’ll be out on the trail after putting up things and getting a snack!
smiles…you made me sweat a bit…nice intimacy between instrument and player…smiles
Loved it Tony – and knew Claudia would too. (hope it’s warmed up over there Claudia)
I figured you’d understand what I was trying to say … smiles.
I guess this is just my milieu.The poems linked for this article have all been so indescribably good! I’m so inspired, so grateful and so honored to have been able to read and share these poems. Thanks to ALL of you!!!
This is a very interesting prompt so I tried to write a response even if it is a trial and error effort on my part. 🙂 Thanks.