Sometimes (esp. when a bit tired) I like easy and limpid poetry – the kind that you can grip with one quick look – like the clear water in a pond where you can easily see the ground. Nothing hidden – nothing that can be read the one or other way – nothing that needs a code to decipher.
But—
my real love is poetry that is multi-layered, poetry that can be read this and that way – poetry that when you scratch the surface you find another layer – and another – and there’s so much hidden that you get excited and curious – and a bit breathless – and a bit confused sometimes.
Poetry that you can look at again and again – that you can read again and again – and no read is exactly like the other.
Poetry like this develops – you start – like when you start a painting with one color – let it dry – look at it – what can be added to make it more interesting – you may add the one or other line – the one or other contrasting color – maybe even some material that doesn’t seem to fit or meet the expectations.
BUT – that can easy develop into chaos you say.
And you’re right.
And because of this you do not add thoughtlessly or quickly but look at your poem – feel the mood – and ponder: what does it need to shine – to grab people – to make it interesting?
Maybe even: what would irritate people a bit?
Maybe you think: i like the text but it feels a bit cool – so you add some warmth by exchanging the one or other verb – by including the one or other metaphor or image.
Or you think: it is nice but too even and you want people to linger at some parts in the text – you could play with the font or some unusual words or whatever comes to your mind.
I often do this with poetry like I do when I paint. I nearly never paint or write something and it stays how it is in the first go. I insert some pics of a painting and how it developed step by step – with each layer something new appears, something stays – something changes – something disappears visually – but everything will leave traces and gives the poem a depth that only happens when something grows – when there are layers…
So do you wanna give it a try?
Looking forward to what you come up with…
–Claudia
here we go… welcome to the pub – i’m your host tonite and looking forward to what you’ll be bringing to the table…smiles
I have peeked a little and some wonderful paintings are already hanging here.
Hi Claudia – once I was talking poetry with a friend and she mentioned in poetry that in prose one wants the exact word, but in poetry one wants the word that can have several meanings…
i always like the words that you can stretch farthest…
the nuanced meaning is always where the emotion in poetry hides…
&it never hides well…hahah
I liked the layers in your painting, that was interesting to me. On Thursday I go to Philly to see my daughter’s art exhibit at college. Should be interesting.
that sounds awesome… you have to tell us about it…
Will do
most of my poems have one layer – what they actual describe – some get two – what they describe, what they symbolize ( to me ) – and then once in a while a poem will have a third meaning added by the reader – that’s when I feel I have really succeeded. It isn’t often though that it works that way.
I love the vibrant colors in your paintings! I will see if I can create something with layers today. Great prompt!
So cool to have you hosting again, Claudia!
I really love a challenge that stretch me.. this was a very interesting way to paint with poetry.. I actually couldn’t write it all at once.. but really wrote it in pieces. I just wonder if one could maybe use an existing poem and build layers upon that one.. Thank you for sharing this technique Claudia..
i def. think that would be possible
it’s like in a painting – you look at it and if you feel as if there’s something missing you start to add…
While this isn’t on point, I feel compelled to mention that today’s International Limerick Day (and Edward Lear’s birthday.)
My lim’rick obsession’s severe;
I write rhymes night and day ev’ry year.
My addiction is brutal.
Resistance is futile…
And I warrant the fault lies with Lear.
Happy birthday, Edward Lear, and Happy Limerick Day!
Happy Limerick Day!
ha nice – happy limerick day!!
I wonder how to do layers in limericks — that would be a challenge.
Oh, yes, we should do that at some point! A challenge indeed! Happy birthday and Limerick Day!
Layers in limericks — Hmmm, never tried it. Multi-verse limericks yes, but layers? Now you’re scaring me. 🙂
Terrific prompt, Claudia. Challenged with “layering” my poem, I decided to give it several layers, opening & closing with haiku, sprinkle in a Collum Lune, add several
rhyming stanzas, include the fascination of Miller/Schoenfeld spacing–then shift the POV & voices, including dialogue, with a surprise hook. What fun you inspired!
Ha. I liked what you did Glenn. 🙂
smiles… quite some layers indeed… i too like what you did glenn
It was a fun read and you coined some great new expressions, Glenn. I’ll be trying to talk robin and avoid talking jet.
You really succeeded well in layering, Glenn!
Nice to know how you proceeded, Glenn.
Thanks for sharing your techniques. I now want to read it again!
Bit like a Baumkuchen…
Definitely the kind of poem you need to mull over, and add to over time…
A great idea, forcing us perhaps to slow down rom time to time.
I agree.. maybe to rewrite something old.. 🙂
baumkuchen – ha – i like that image – onion would fit as well…smiles
But one is so much more delicious than the other…
true…
smiles
loved how you explained how you built your poem marina
I agree with Claudia. I really enjoyed seeing how you built your poem.
Good evening, my friend. There are many layers to life, and to each person, that we can appreciate.
good evening my friend – and i whole-heartedly agree…
Thank you for the warm welcome. I have a pressing engagement that I must attend to but I will return to read more here in a bit.
nice – we’re happy to having you… and in case you’re hungry after your pressing engagement, you see – there’s a lot of food in the pub as well…smiles
I agree with that! Layers are in everything and everywhere in our world.
Claudia, I am not clever enough to put layers into my poems – and nor can I disentangle them in other people’s. I can only write straightforward stuff. So I’ll sit this one out, and enjoy reading what others write.
oh viv – i think you could. it doesn’t have to be much – maybe just some words you add or play with – a metaphor woven in – think about it… smiles
Sometimes challenges are fun!
I tried, off and on for 24 hours. This morning I deleted all the rubbish I’d written!
Viv, I write straight-forward stuff too, but I found a way to do this. I hope you will too. Just a bit of interesting word play can work.
I hope I fit the prompt – mine’s layered like a Southern banana pudding – different things put together in one dish but separated – sort of. I chose to put together parts of two different, but similar poetry, hopefully weaving together the different parts into the same dish. One is part of a NAPOWRIMO prompt and the other is part of a long poem of several different parts. here goes nothing!
will be over in a minute…
did you say southern banana pudding… heck – i’m getting hungry…
There is definitely a lot of food here tonight.
….and i already had lots of czech chocolate cake at work… oy
Come on over. I’ll be taking it out of the oven in a few when the merinque gets all golden.
i’m flying…..
I’m standing in my back yard looking for the dragon over head to land you safely.
you’re talking about the dragon with that dangerous smell – right?
smiles
Oh yes….wild and dangerous black silk dragon.
I misunderstood the comment. The dangerous dragon flew back to his mountain in Japan after 13 years, but a sweet southern boy with blue eyes will make sure you safely land.
Ah, I found your poem beautifully layered, Toni!! Really a commendable effort, plus a very interesting poem. One I had to read a few times.
I’m sold on that banana pudding!
My mother-in-llaw says I make the best – better even than her mother-in-law who was known for her nanner pud’n. I think It is good for what ails you. 🙂
Oh my! Anyone who can make banana pudding is a friend of mine!
Hey Friend!!!!
I love your paintings, Claudia.
thank you…smiles… and welcome
Ah, she is good, isn’t she?
Yes! She is. I always like when she uses one of her paintings as illustration.
Hey Claudia – good to see you after a long time, how have you been?
From the very little painting I have done – I can see what you are taking about – and it sounds so interesting.
hey abhra – good to see you as well
i’m good – got almost ran over twice by a car on my bikeride back home from work – apart from this all is well
smiles
how are you?
Ouch.. I have very few interactions with cars on my bike-ride to work. so much safer with bicycle paths … 🙂
true… it was a scorching hot day here and some of the car drivers seemed to be a bit “headless”
Here they are even worse if it’s raining.. which it is right now.
Oh my god, that is too bad – be careful. I still have some symptoms for my accident in last Nov. The good news is after almost 2 years, I am back to my own place. It feels great to see my old books 🙂
LOVE this prompt. Thank you! 🙂
you’re very welcome madame
smiles
Loved the cake 🙂 there seem to be a lot of baked goods tonight..
hmmm… delicious stuff out there…
As to clarify – there are NO calories nor any fat in my banana pudding. When you put your spoon through the meringue on top, all the fat and calories escape and fly to heaven.
alrighty – bedtime over here for me… will be back tomorrow morning to read the overnites…
Goodnight.. Bedtime for me as well 😉
..and I have just opened the email for the prompt..I’ll give it a try..this is something I find hard but perhaps it’s because I try to hard..thank you, Claudia, for the challenge.
..and I am just opening the email for the prompt..I think I might give it a try. Thanks for the challenge, Claudia. This is hard because it doesn’t come easily to me. I think I try too hard. Sweet dreams.
That’s exactly it ~ don’t try too hard; actually, don’t try at all. Just let it flow out and see what you get.
Hope you do give it a try, Kathy!
As I think about layering, one thing comes to mind for me…and that is when my poems have layers, it generally happens accidentally. I write a poem about some THING, and then I look at it and think…ha, this could have some universal significance…and thus the poem appears to have another layer. If I think it does have a ‘universal significance’ I could add some details to enhance that effect once I see the possibility. I don’t think it is easy to sit down and say “I’m going to write a layered poem” as a goal. But maybe that is just me.
yes – usually they seem to grow…
Actually I think sometimes comments can help me in finding new meanings in a poem.. but the balance between universal to specific is quite important. It is probably easier to start from a universal image like an extended metaphor and then add details like a dialogue to make it layered…
I do think that sometimes it just happens. Metaphors provide great layers and can be interpreted in different ways. As I write, I peel off layers too. So many different perspectives here depending on the reader or the writer and the journey that a poem may take us on.
Just finding myself back to writing. Thanks for the great prompt, Claudia. I love layers (like an onion, as Shrek would say). Saw a couple of layers in a recent experience and thought of them when I read your prompt. Nice to be back.
and nice to having you back
will be over in a bit – need coffee first though – ha – just woke
Claudia, nice to see you here again. I decided to try some layering not sure how I did, but I gave it a go.
nice – cool to see you in the pub truedessa
Well, Kanzensakura has suggested I come here and participate in the discussions here, so I thought I may give this prompt a try. That’s not completely honest. I wrote a poem the other day that happened to be applicable (possibly) to this prompt. I generally have issues with directed writing, but I like the challenge!
I’m the Mediocre man behind “Mild Musings” of said man, and I hope you enjoy this odd little poem that I’ve linked.
よろしくお願いします
nice to meet you… welcome at dVerse and will be over in a bit to read…
I really like what you wrote.. and I have enjoyed other pieces of you before. 🙂
Love your work Claudia, in word and in paint, so I’ll see if I can find some inspiration in a sink of dirty dishes and give it a go!
sinks of dirty dishes are a rich pool for inspiration usually
smiles
made my morning reading round and off to work now…
will catch up in the evening…
have a happy wednesday everyone!!
This challenge took me out of my comfort zone….and I liked it. Thanks, Claudia. 🙂
Ah.. Layers.. is what i love about ART.. and same with poetry.. as with dance.. piano.. and martial arts in general…
There is no predicting ART that flows.. and to and thro.. in waves of layers.. each one blending into the others for an ocean of song.. however that may come.. in words or painting.. and so much more…:)
IS certainly a pleasure I love to do.. and love to read.. when i come across all layered efforts of ART that are simply amazing.. for the more interpretive and introspective among us.. in the multi-media explosion ART of modern culture.. that consists as so many images.. words.. and songs of words.. almost everywhere we go..
For me to capture.. create.. and absorb it all.. is a fascinating way to live.. always now…
Truly for folks who love to do this.. we are living in a REAL RENAISSANCE OF ART.. AVAILABLE.. accessible.. to the masses through Internet avenues of Google.. YouTube and so many more.. and the best thing of all is.. there ARE NO outsiders to ART now.. anyone with talent..
CAN show their wares.. almost for free with a few digital tools.. and the Love of ART set free in digital way..:)
I occasionally write a poem like this–not quite as intricate as your paintings. This 3-painting illustration is so excellent! Magic realism.
Claudia, It’s good to have you tending bar this week. I love this prompt. I only wish I had the energy to write something fresh for it, but I’ve been sick the past 3 days and barely made it to work today. So I’ve offered one I wrote in April that I think fits the bill and talks of art, too. Peace, Linda
Now it’s bed time.. and tomorrow night there is a new prompt 🙂