Sometimes (esp. when a bit tired) I like easy and limpid poetry – the kind that you can grip with one quick look – like the clear water in a pond where you can easily see the ground. Nothing hidden – nothing that can be read the one or other way – nothing that needs a code to decipher.
But—
my real love is poetry that is multi-layered, poetry that can be read this and that way – poetry that when you scratch the surface you find another layer – and another – and there’s so much hidden that you get excited and curious – and a bit breathless – and a bit confused sometimes.
Poetry that you can look at again and again – that you can read again and again – and no read is exactly like the other.
Poetry like this develops – you start – like when you start a painting with one color – let it dry – look at it – what can be added to make it more interesting – you may add the one or other line – the one or other contrasting color – maybe even some material that doesn’t seem to fit or meet the expectations.
BUT – that can easy develop into chaos you say.
And you’re right.
And because of this you do not add thoughtlessly or quickly but look at your poem – feel the mood – and ponder: what does it need to shine – to grab people – to make it interesting?
Maybe even: what would irritate people a bit?
Maybe you think: i like the text but it feels a bit cool – so you add some warmth by exchanging the one or other verb – by including the one or other metaphor or image.
Or you think: it is nice but too even and you want people to linger at some parts in the text – you could play with the font or some unusual words or whatever comes to your mind.
I often do this with poetry like I do when I paint. I nearly never paint or write something and it stays how it is in the first go. I insert some pics of a painting and how it developed step by step – with each layer something new appears, something stays – something changes – something disappears visually – but everything will leave traces and gives the poem a depth that only happens when something grows – when there are layers…
So do you wanna give it a try?
Looking forward to what you come up with…
–Claudia
claudia said:
here we go… welcome to the pub – i’m your host tonite and looking forward to what you’ll be bringing to the table…smiles
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
I have peeked a little and some wonderful paintings are already hanging here.
billgncs said:
Hi Claudia – once I was talking poetry with a friend and she mentioned in poetry that in prose one wants the exact word, but in poetry one wants the word that can have several meanings…
claudia said:
i always like the words that you can stretch farthest…
billgncs said:
the nuanced meaning is always where the emotion in poetry hides…
claudia said:
&it never hides well…hahah
billgncs said:
I liked the layers in your painting, that was interesting to me. On Thursday I go to Philly to see my daughter’s art exhibit at college. Should be interesting.
claudia said:
that sounds awesome… you have to tell us about it…
billgncs said:
Will do
billgncs said:
most of my poems have one layer – what they actual describe – some get two – what they describe, what they symbolize ( to me ) – and then once in a while a poem will have a third meaning added by the reader – that’s when I feel I have really succeeded. It isn’t often though that it works that way.
tamekamullins said:
I love the vibrant colors in your paintings! I will see if I can create something with layers today. Great prompt!
Mary said:
So cool to have you hosting again, Claudia!
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
I really love a challenge that stretch me.. this was a very interesting way to paint with poetry.. I actually couldn’t write it all at once.. but really wrote it in pieces. I just wonder if one could maybe use an existing poem and build layers upon that one.. Thank you for sharing this technique Claudia..
claudia said:
i def. think that would be possible
it’s like in a painting – you look at it and if you feel as if there’s something missing you start to add…
Madeleine Begun Kane said:
While this isn’t on point, I feel compelled to mention that today’s International Limerick Day (and Edward Lear’s birthday.)
My lim’rick obsession’s severe;
I write rhymes night and day ev’ry year.
My addiction is brutal.
Resistance is futile…
And I warrant the fault lies with Lear.
Happy birthday, Edward Lear, and Happy Limerick Day!
Happy Limerick Day!
claudia said:
ha nice – happy limerick day!!
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
I wonder how to do layers in limericks — that would be a challenge.
MarinaSofia said:
Oh, yes, we should do that at some point! A challenge indeed! Happy birthday and Limerick Day!
Madeleine Begun Kane said:
Layers in limericks — Hmmm, never tried it. Multi-verse limericks yes, but layers? Now you’re scaring me. 🙂
Glenn Buttkus said:
Terrific prompt, Claudia. Challenged with “layering” my poem, I decided to give it several layers, opening & closing with haiku, sprinkle in a Collum Lune, add several
rhyming stanzas, include the fascination of Miller/Schoenfeld spacing–then shift the POV & voices, including dialogue, with a surprise hook. What fun you inspired!
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Ha. I liked what you did Glenn. 🙂
claudia said:
smiles… quite some layers indeed… i too like what you did glenn
MarinaSofia said:
It was a fun read and you coined some great new expressions, Glenn. I’ll be trying to talk robin and avoid talking jet.
Mary said:
You really succeeded well in layering, Glenn!
Gabriella said:
Nice to know how you proceeded, Glenn.
tamekamullins said:
Thanks for sharing your techniques. I now want to read it again!
MarinaSofia said:
Bit like a Baumkuchen…
Definitely the kind of poem you need to mull over, and add to over time…
A great idea, forcing us perhaps to slow down rom time to time.
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
I agree.. maybe to rewrite something old.. 🙂
claudia said:
baumkuchen – ha – i like that image – onion would fit as well…smiles
MarinaSofia said:
But one is so much more delicious than the other…
claudia said:
true…
smiles
claudia said:
loved how you explained how you built your poem marina
Mary said:
I agree with Claudia. I really enjoyed seeing how you built your poem.
X said:
Good evening, my friend. There are many layers to life, and to each person, that we can appreciate.
claudia said:
good evening my friend – and i whole-heartedly agree…
X said:
Thank you for the warm welcome. I have a pressing engagement that I must attend to but I will return to read more here in a bit.
claudia said:
nice – we’re happy to having you… and in case you’re hungry after your pressing engagement, you see – there’s a lot of food in the pub as well…smiles
Mary said:
I agree with that! Layers are in everything and everywhere in our world.
http://vivinfrance.wordpress.com said:
Claudia, I am not clever enough to put layers into my poems – and nor can I disentangle them in other people’s. I can only write straightforward stuff. So I’ll sit this one out, and enjoy reading what others write.
claudia said:
oh viv – i think you could. it doesn’t have to be much – maybe just some words you add or play with – a metaphor woven in – think about it… smiles
Gabriella said:
Sometimes challenges are fun!
http://vivinfrance.wordpress.com said:
I tried, off and on for 24 hours. This morning I deleted all the rubbish I’d written!
Mary said:
Viv, I write straight-forward stuff too, but I found a way to do this. I hope you will too. Just a bit of interesting word play can work.
kanzensakura said:
I hope I fit the prompt – mine’s layered like a Southern banana pudding – different things put together in one dish but separated – sort of. I chose to put together parts of two different, but similar poetry, hopefully weaving together the different parts into the same dish. One is part of a NAPOWRIMO prompt and the other is part of a long poem of several different parts. here goes nothing!
claudia said:
will be over in a minute…
did you say southern banana pudding… heck – i’m getting hungry…
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
There is definitely a lot of food here tonight.
claudia said:
….and i already had lots of czech chocolate cake at work… oy
kanzensakura said:
Come on over. I’ll be taking it out of the oven in a few when the merinque gets all golden.
claudia said:
i’m flying…..
kanzensakura said:
I’m standing in my back yard looking for the dragon over head to land you safely.
claudia said:
you’re talking about the dragon with that dangerous smell – right?
smiles
kanzensakura said:
Oh yes….wild and dangerous black silk dragon.
kanzensakura said:
I misunderstood the comment. The dangerous dragon flew back to his mountain in Japan after 13 years, but a sweet southern boy with blue eyes will make sure you safely land.
Mary said:
Ah, I found your poem beautifully layered, Toni!! Really a commendable effort, plus a very interesting poem. One I had to read a few times.
tamekamullins said:
I’m sold on that banana pudding!
kanzensakura said:
My mother-in-llaw says I make the best – better even than her mother-in-law who was known for her nanner pud’n. I think It is good for what ails you. 🙂
tamekamullins said:
Oh my! Anyone who can make banana pudding is a friend of mine!
kanzensakura said:
Hey Friend!!!!
Opal Onyx said:
I love your paintings, Claudia.
claudia said:
thank you…smiles… and welcome
Mary said:
Ah, she is good, isn’t she?
kanzensakura said:
Yes! She is. I always like when she uses one of her paintings as illustration.
Abhra said:
Hey Claudia – good to see you after a long time, how have you been?
From the very little painting I have done – I can see what you are taking about – and it sounds so interesting.
claudia said:
hey abhra – good to see you as well
i’m good – got almost ran over twice by a car on my bikeride back home from work – apart from this all is well
smiles
how are you?
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Ouch.. I have very few interactions with cars on my bike-ride to work. so much safer with bicycle paths … 🙂
claudia said:
true… it was a scorching hot day here and some of the car drivers seemed to be a bit “headless”
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Here they are even worse if it’s raining.. which it is right now.
Abhra said:
Oh my god, that is too bad – be careful. I still have some symptoms for my accident in last Nov. The good news is after almost 2 years, I am back to my own place. It feels great to see my old books 🙂
whimsygizmo said:
LOVE this prompt. Thank you! 🙂
claudia said:
you’re very welcome madame
smiles
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Loved the cake 🙂 there seem to be a lot of baked goods tonight..
claudia said:
hmmm… delicious stuff out there…
kanzensakura said:
As to clarify – there are NO calories nor any fat in my banana pudding. When you put your spoon through the meringue on top, all the fat and calories escape and fly to heaven.
claudia said:
alrighty – bedtime over here for me… will be back tomorrow morning to read the overnites…
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Goodnight.. Bedtime for me as well 😉
Kathy Reedk said:
..and I have just opened the email for the prompt..I’ll give it a try..this is something I find hard but perhaps it’s because I try to hard..thank you, Claudia, for the challenge.
Kathy Reed said:
..and I am just opening the email for the prompt..I think I might give it a try. Thanks for the challenge, Claudia. This is hard because it doesn’t come easily to me. I think I try too hard. Sweet dreams.
Opal Onyx said:
That’s exactly it ~ don’t try too hard; actually, don’t try at all. Just let it flow out and see what you get.
Mary said:
Hope you do give it a try, Kathy!
Mary said:
As I think about layering, one thing comes to mind for me…and that is when my poems have layers, it generally happens accidentally. I write a poem about some THING, and then I look at it and think…ha, this could have some universal significance…and thus the poem appears to have another layer. If I think it does have a ‘universal significance’ I could add some details to enhance that effect once I see the possibility. I don’t think it is easy to sit down and say “I’m going to write a layered poem” as a goal. But maybe that is just me.
claudia said:
yes – usually they seem to grow…
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Actually I think sometimes comments can help me in finding new meanings in a poem.. but the balance between universal to specific is quite important. It is probably easier to start from a universal image like an extended metaphor and then add details like a dialogue to make it layered…
mishunderstood said:
I do think that sometimes it just happens. Metaphors provide great layers and can be interpreted in different ways. As I write, I peel off layers too. So many different perspectives here depending on the reader or the writer and the journey that a poem may take us on.
Joanne said:
Just finding myself back to writing. Thanks for the great prompt, Claudia. I love layers (like an onion, as Shrek would say). Saw a couple of layers in a recent experience and thought of them when I read your prompt. Nice to be back.
claudia said:
and nice to having you back
will be over in a bit – need coffee first though – ha – just woke
Truedessa said:
Claudia, nice to see you here again. I decided to try some layering not sure how I did, but I gave it a go.
claudia said:
nice – cool to see you in the pub truedessa
el34ax7 said:
Well, Kanzensakura has suggested I come here and participate in the discussions here, so I thought I may give this prompt a try. That’s not completely honest. I wrote a poem the other day that happened to be applicable (possibly) to this prompt. I generally have issues with directed writing, but I like the challenge!
I’m the Mediocre man behind “Mild Musings” of said man, and I hope you enjoy this odd little poem that I’ve linked.
よろしくお願いします
claudia said:
nice to meet you… welcome at dVerse and will be over in a bit to read…
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
I really like what you wrote.. and I have enjoyed other pieces of you before. 🙂
shanyns said:
Love your work Claudia, in word and in paint, so I’ll see if I can find some inspiration in a sink of dirty dishes and give it a go!
claudia said:
sinks of dirty dishes are a rich pool for inspiration usually
smiles
claudia said:
made my morning reading round and off to work now…
will catch up in the evening…
have a happy wednesday everyone!!
mishunderstood said:
This challenge took me out of my comfort zone….and I liked it. Thanks, Claudia. 🙂
katiemiafrederick said:
Ah.. Layers.. is what i love about ART.. and same with poetry.. as with dance.. piano.. and martial arts in general…
There is no predicting ART that flows.. and to and thro.. in waves of layers.. each one blending into the others for an ocean of song.. however that may come.. in words or painting.. and so much more…:)
IS certainly a pleasure I love to do.. and love to read.. when i come across all layered efforts of ART that are simply amazing.. for the more interpretive and introspective among us.. in the multi-media explosion ART of modern culture.. that consists as so many images.. words.. and songs of words.. almost everywhere we go..
For me to capture.. create.. and absorb it all.. is a fascinating way to live.. always now…
Truly for folks who love to do this.. we are living in a REAL RENAISSANCE OF ART.. AVAILABLE.. accessible.. to the masses through Internet avenues of Google.. YouTube and so many more.. and the best thing of all is.. there ARE NO outsiders to ART now.. anyone with talent..
CAN show their wares.. almost for free with a few digital tools.. and the Love of ART set free in digital way..:)
Susan said:
I occasionally write a poem like this–not quite as intricate as your paintings. This 3-painting illustration is so excellent! Magic realism.
Linda Kruschke said:
Claudia, It’s good to have you tending bar this week. I love this prompt. I only wish I had the energy to write something fresh for it, but I’ve been sick the past 3 days and barely made it to work today. So I’ve offered one I wrote in April that I think fits the bill and talks of art, too. Peace, Linda
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
Now it’s bed time.. and tomorrow night there is a new prompt 🙂