Welcome! This is Frank Hubeny. The form today is one that Ladyleemanila (https://ladyleemanilablog.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/remember-this-one-lovely-lonely-soul/) used in a poem linked in our last Open Link Night. The form is called “ottava rima”. I didn’t see any previous reference to it at dVerse Poets Pub so let’s give it a try.
Ottava rima is an old Italian form consisting of multiple stanzas each of eight lines using iambic meter and having the rhyme pattern abababcc.
Two very famous poems, among many others, were written in ottava rima: Lord Byron’s Don Juan and William Butler Yeats’ Sailing to Byzantium.
Here is Tom O’Bedlam reciting some excerpts from the first canto of Don Juan in SpokenVerse’s YouTube video channel.
Here is Tom O’Bedlam reciting the four stanzas of Yeat’s more serious poem also in SpokenVerse’s channel.
Although one can go on and on indefinitely with ottava rima stanzas, for this challenge let’s limit the number of stanzas to four or less. One stanza would do. It can be on any topic you want.
Here’s the procedure.
- Write your ottava rima poem of 1 to 4 stanzas,
- post it on your blog and
- put the link to your blog post in the Mister Linky below.
- Comment below if you have linked something or have some question about ottava rima. I may not know the answer but it will be fun to try to find one.
- And don’t forget to read and comment on the other poems that others have linked. We all get to know each other better that way.
frankhubeny said:
The bar is open. If you have any problems with ottava rima, let me know. It is easier than a sonnet because it has fewer lines, but harder than a haiku.
Björn Rudberg (brudberg) said:
It’s harder than a sonnet because you have to find more words rhyming…. I will get around a bit later… 🙂
frankhubeny said:
Yes, you may be right. I did find mine to be hard to write.
dianadevlinblog said:
Yes, I agree. Mine took a while and lots of edits. Still not happy with it.
frankhubeny said:
I am not happy with mine either. I liked the difficult subject matter of your poem and I think you handled it well.
dianadevlinblog said:
Thanks Frank
kim881 said:
Good evening, Frank! I have tried this form before and I really enjoyed writing for this prompt. I’ve stuck to one stanza as I’ve been having telecommunications problems and wasn’t sure if I would be able to link up this evening. Luckily, I still have Internet – just no incoming calls! I’m looking forward to reading some excellent ottava rima.
frankhubeny said:
I hope you get those telecommunication problems resolved. I am hooked on having an internet and phone connection even though I suppose I don’t really need them to survive.
kim881 said:
It’s an even bigger pain when you’re an examiner!
ladyleemanila said:
Reblogged this on ladyleemanila and commented:
Ottava rima challenge 🙂
frankhubeny said:
Thank you for your post last week using ottava rima, Ladyleemanila! I was wondering what form to use this week and then I saw your post with the clear description of ottava rima.
Glenn Buttkus said:
Harder than a haiku indeed–like one of your examples, I found myself going dark as the rhyme schemes and stanzas formed–perhaps my ill temper, poor health, or my wife in Greece while I hold down the home fires, & stoke the emotional pyres. Nice prompt though. Thanks for hosting today.
frankhubeny said:
I like Yeats’ poem, however, I don’t understand it as well as I think I should understand it. I liked the darkness (or dryness) of your poem with its nice sound.
jerennazuto said:
I’m rather new to petty writing and English is my second language, so could anyone be kind enough to explain me ‘iambic meter’ in simple terms?
jillys2016 said:
Fun form – makes me want to write grand and glorious epics! I’ll start with a single stanza that came from an overheard snippit. Thanks for hosting, Frank!
frankhubeny said:
Having an idea for a poem is usually half of my problem with writing. Looking forward to your poem!
jillys2016 said:
Don’t very often post 2 poems, but I decided to try my hand at a bit of story telling. Kind of like flash riva 🙂 Thanks for humoring me !
frankhubeny said:
I liked them! With this form each stanza can be like a tiny chapter in a story. With inspiration from you and Charley, I may write a narrative one as well.
lillian said:
Hello everyone and good to seeing you tending the bar, Frank. hmmm let’s see, I’d like a Singapore Sling tonight — get my travel through liquid 🙂
A very challenging prompt for me: a) rhyming is difficult as I’m a free verse kind of gal; and every time Iambic Pentameter comes up I have to look up what it means. I gave it a go……and yep — 1 8 line stanza was as far as my pen traveled. Looking forward to reading others! 🙂
frankhubeny said:
Whatever a Singapore Sling is, you’ve got it. Your meter wasn’t quite iambic pentameter, to my ear, but the sound was good. So good, that I think one could write ottava rima in other than iambic meters. I like writing shorter poems since it forces me to be careful with word choice. One stanza is about the right length. Your rhymes sounded good to me.
lillian said:
Thanks Frank. At least each line has the 10 syllables. It’s the unstressed/stressed that throws me.
frankhubeny said:
Sometimes one can make the meter too precise. In your case I could hear four accented syllables per line which, to my ear, made the poem sound nice.
lillian said:
Well that is really weird! I entered The Black Widow into Mr Linky above, and it shows up as Lillian The One With All the Words (which was for the Quadrille) BUT when I click on it, it does indeed link to The Black Widow. Weird.
Frank: Will you please click on my link in Mr Linky above and let me know if you’re getting to the Black Widow as well?
frankhubeny said:
I got to The Black Widow. And looking at the URL it looks like it is pointing to an individual post on your blog.
lillian said:
Never mind. I just got it fixed 🙂
nosaintaugustine said:
I believe I linked to my post. Hopefully it counts as a real sonnet because it would be my first sonnet I’ve written!
frankhubeny said:
You didn’t write sonnet, but it seemed to me like a perfect ottava rima stanza. The challenge was to write a poem in ottava rima anyway, not a sonnet, and that is what you did. Well done!
nosaintaugustine said:
Aw dang, but thank you! One day I will do a sonnet but rhyming freaks me out. Always afraid I sound like Dr Seuss
jillys2016 said:
Go ahead – get in touch with your inner Suess! The Ottava Rima is like training wheels for sonnet writing – you did this one so well that the sonnet should be like falling off a bike… I mean… perhaps a better metaphor would be best? 😉
(When you DO write the sonnet, please let me know – would love to read!)
nosaintaugustine said:
Now falling off a bike, I have lots of experience with. 🙂
jillys2016 said:
That settles it – you’re sure to be a success at the sonnet form!
frankhubeny said:
Bryan (quest4peas) has an ottava rima poem that shows you how to write an ottava rima poem. https://quest4peas.wordpress.com/2017/05/25/an-ottava-rima-about-writing-ottava-rima/
Charley said:
Perhaps I have written one that (unintentionally) shows how NOT to write an ottava rima! I don’t major on the forms, and my iambs oft-times are mostly feet of the sinister nature. Anyway, cheers, y’all!
frankhubeny said:
Yours was pretty good. I’m glad you linked it.
paul scribbles said:
I’m late to the bar…good conversation with a friend and the night has passed me by…I’ll try catch up tomorrow…interesting and for me challenging form.
frankhubeny said:
Looking forward to anything you come up with, Paul, but there will be other times if inspiration doesn’t pop up something. Although I kind of like this form, it is not always easy to write.
paul scribbles said:
Penned one as i fell to sleep. I’ll catch up on comments over the next day or two. Quite the challenge this one.
frankhubeny said:
That was a nice one about demons and I can see how the idea might come to you as you were going to sleep. The hardest part for me in writing a poem (or anything) is finding something to say. (The next hardest part is saying it.)
Sabio Lantz said:
Wonderful, a form prompt with free content. But ironically, I am not free to write for this one. I don’t see a time limit on Mr. Linky though. Got prompt.
Sabio Lantz said:
*Good Prompt!
frankhubeny said:
I think the time limit is 48 hours, if I set it up right. Don’t worry, Sabio. There will be other opportunities to write something. I am glad you liked the prompt.
Rosemary Nissen-Wade said:
Glad I’m still in time. I combined this with a Poets United prompt on Flowers. I like to play with form, but it’s some time since I tried strict rhyme and metre. I found it very hard! The constraints made for a poem that reads more as thought than feeling, it seems to me, so I don’t know that it’s one I’d keep – but it was a fun exercise. Maybe I just need to practise this form some more!
frankhubeny said:
I think your poem was very nice and worth keeping. You can always revise parts that you might not like later. I think this form could become addictive once one gets used to writing it.
Rosemary Nissen-Wade said:
Thanks, Frank, for the encouragement!
purplepeninportland said:
Thanks so much for these lovely readings, Frank. I enjoyed listening to them.
frankhubeny said:
I am glad you liked them! Tom O’Bedlam has a good reading voice.
frankhubeny said:
I just finished reading yours, Sara. I like how you combined two stanzas together. I had not thought of doing that, but I think it adds a nice twist to the form.
purplepeninportland said:
Thanks, Frank. This form is challenging.
Jane Dougherty said:
Didn’t have time to do much at all yesterday, so here’s mine, a bit late.
frankhubeny said:
It’s not technically late until the Mister Linky expires. I am glad you linked your poem about a fox keeping her young safe at night from the hunters.
Jane Dougherty said:
I might post another one then, as I’ve used the same ottava rima form for a Real Toads prompt.
frankhubeny said:
Great! I would love to read it.
Jane Dougherty said:
Just posted 🙂
frankhubeny said:
I just read it. It was very nice. Thanks for linking it!
Jane Dougherty said:
Thanks for the prompt 🙂 It’s a while since I’ve used this form. It was good to give it an airing 🙂
Diganta Misra said:
I wrote one in response to this prompt. I wrote it as a tribute to all the victims of sexual abuse and would love some feedback on it. Here’s the link to it: https://digantamisra1.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/violet-and-vices/
Thank you 🙂
revivedwriter said:
Thanks for this, Frank! I just posted mine.
frankhubeny said:
Nice poem on the hells we put our bodies through. Thanks for linking it with us!
lillian said:
Hi again, Frank. Okay — I decided to take up the challenge once again. I edited The Black Widow and I “think” it is now much closer to iambic pentameter! Take a look again and see what you think 🙂
frankhubeny said:
In looking at the new one ending in “always, always victorious”, there may still be some problems with iambic pentameter or I am looking at a cached version. That last line has 14 syllables by my count. Iambic pentameter should have 9-10 syllables per line with 5 syllables accented. The accented syllables usually alternate with unaccented syllables. I think Jane Dougherty’s poems are a good example of iambic pentameter. Some of her lines have 9 syllables which is OK. Hers all have 5 accented syllables, the way I read them.
Imelda said:
What a challenge this is – difficult but fulfilling (although I forced my rhymes). 🙂 Thanks, Frank, for the new form and the challenge.
frankhubeny said:
I just read it, Imelda. It’s a very nice poem. I am glad you enjoyed the challenge. Thank you for linking it with us.
Imelda said:
Thanks, Frank.
Rosemary Nissen-Wade said:
Well, I am a little confused. The instruction was for ‘iambic meter’, but most of us including me have interpreted that as meaning iambic pentameter. And even some of your comments here, Frank, suggest that (in suggesting one might depart from it, as if that would be something new). But iambic meter could be trimeter, tetrameter, whatever. So which is it for ottava rima?
frankhubeny said:
The way Yeats and Byron used it, it was iambic pentameter, however, when I looked at this in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottava_rima) I read “eight iambic lines, usually iambic pentameters”. It was because of that I left the constraint open. I prefer iambic pentameter for this because iambic tetrameter (4 beats) is very close to common measure except for rhyme pattern.
Rosemary Nissen-Wade said:
Thanks for clarifying.
Colin Lee said:
Another ambitious prompt for us, Frank. Cheers!
frankhubeny said:
Thanks, Colin! Four stanzas, and a lovely description of paths almost crossing.
Kathy Reed said:
Since I am not fully studied on pentameter and such, my contribution may be lacking. But I enjoyed writing this form very much. Thanks for the prompt. Frank.
frankhubeny said:
That was a nice poem describing the courtship of those two birds, Kathy.