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We know you poets enjoy writing to the art of photographers and other artists. So today I’d like you to write to the art of Danny Gregory, artist, author and co-founder of Sketchbook Skool. Danny has given us permission to use any of the drawings on his Flickr Page as long as you attribute him in your post.
I had never heard about Danny Gregory until last summer a friend pointed out Sketchbook Skool to me – Sketchbook Skool is an online art skool dedicated to illustrated journaling. I had been sketching for a few months but felt I needed more incentive and encouragement to make it a more regular habit. This friend and I exchanged a few emails and I was convinced to enroll in Sketchbook Skool.
I started the first online ‘kourse’ in October 2014 and was hooked right from the first ‘klass.’ This has changed the way I now look at the world and, most importantly perhaps, the way I look at myself. Since then I have also read some of Danny’s books: “Everyday Matters,” “A Kiss Before You Go,” and “An Illustrated Life: Drawing Inspiration from the Private Sketchbooks of Artists, Illustrators and Designers.”
Rather than just feature Danny Gregory’s art, I thought it would be fun to learn a few things about Danny. Because, like sketching, poetry is about art and creativity I thought I’d contact him about an interview for Poetics. He accepted immediately, and I am grateful that he answered my questions so thoroughly.
I hope that you will enjoy the interview and that it will encourage you to engage in more creativity.
Danny Gregory, can you introduce yourself in a few words?
Sure, I am an author and an artist. I was born in London, grew up in Australia, Pakistan, Israel and New York. I spent thirty years working as a creative director in advertising. I believe that art is a natural part of life but that many of us are afraid to give ourselves permission to create. I want to try to provide ways for people to overcome that fear because I think that now more than ever the world needs as many creative people as possible.
What inspired you to draw on a regular basis?
Like most people, I stopped drawing when I was about ten years old. When I was in my mid-thirties, my wife was run over by a NYC subway train. She was left paraplegic, in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Our son was 9 months old. This experience shook me to the core and I felt that life had lost all meaning. After a long time of searching for a purpose and a way to see the world, one day, I was moved to draw. That first drawing led me to the art of illustrated journaling, to filling a book with drawings and writing about my life, my world, the beauty I was discovering all around me.
How did this change your life?
I think we live in a time of distraction and disassociation. People seem further and further removed from the reality they live in, constantly leaping between virtual experiences in the palms of their hands.
So I think it’s crucial to find a way to spend some time in the here and now, the actual reality we inhabit, not filtered through Facebook and Instagram and Netflix and YouTube. I love technology but I worry that if we don’t spend more time in unfiltered reality, we will lose touch with what matters, we’ll care less about the consequences of our actions, we’ll become utterly plugged-in and tuned out.
I also think we live in a time in which meaning is harder to find. We have lost faith in the institutions and rituals that anchored us, that gave us perspective and reassurance. We need to understand what all the small things we do add up to because that’s all there is in life, a series of moments ending in the grave. If we don’t make those moments matter, we will end up feeling we wasted our time here on earth.
Art has helped me with both of these issues.
Making and sharing drawings and paintings in a book has helped me to be here, to live in the moment, to slow down and focus on an object in front of me and overcome my preconceptions and buzzing brain to actually see what is here. Unlike meditation, it’s not about shutting off stimulus, it’s about really tuning into what my senses are showing me, making the world brighter and more in focus. By living less just in the realm of my imagination and anxieties, I am happier, more realistic, more aware. And art has connected me with wonderful people who I can share these experiences with, people who can tap into their creativity without being dependent on technology and on commerce to do it.
Art has helped me to see the beauty in what surrounds me, to see that my life does have a point, that I play an active role in it, that there are synergies between my experiences, that my life is valuable because it fills pages and books and shelves. Those illustrated journals are not just Art for its own sake, they are the road map of my experience, the sum total of what I have done and seen, and I think it’s good and valuable to me and others.
What then led you to write and publish books?
I thought a lot about the power I’d discovered in drawing and started blogging about it in 2003, recording my ideas, drawings, live events It was just for friends but eventually I had over 10,000 readers. Soon thereafter, I met an editor at a book launch party, discussed a couple of projects with her and the following week I had a contract for my first book. Each book led to the next and I am just launching a new one and writing my tenth.
As a child and teenager who were the artists that made an impression on you?
Ronald Searle, James Thurber, Dr. Seuss, Alfred Bestall, Robert Crumb, Francis Bacon, Lucian Freud, David Bowie.
Who are your favorite artists today and do you think their art influences your own?
Ronald Searle, Robert Crumb, David Hockney, Vincent van Gogh, Tommy Kane, Francis Bacon, Jenny Saville, Jean-Michele Basquiat, Andy Warhol, Jack Tea Gregory.
Why did you decide to create Sketchbook Skool?
There were several reasons:
1. I had been doing occasional workshops and they took a lot of time and work but only reached 25-50 people.
2. I know a lot about making short films after thirty years in advertising. I had been making a series of videos called Sketchbook Films which captured the ways interesting artists draw. I hadn’t been able to find much like it, well-crafted documentaries that told a story, clearly showed technique, were engaging, inspiring and somewhat didactic.
3. I had several friends who were making a go of teaching online and I wanted to see what that would be like.
4. I met my partner-to-be Koosje when I was speaking at a conference in Amsterdam and we wanted to find a project to work on together.
5. I have tried taking formal art classes and they didn’t do much for me. The ones I experienced turned art making into a set of rules and guidelines, jargon and super-specific techniques. And for lots of our students, early experiences with traditional art lessons and art school left them wounded and full of self doubt, alienated from art making and afraid to ever do it again.
Our goal is to make an art skool that’s as much about life, about how you see it, how you integrate creativity into you everyday activity, as it is about how to use gouache or what pen to buy. We want to keep it simple and fun, keeping people from worrying about having the right sort of materials and focussed more on the process of discovery, than just on the result. We also encourage people to draw everything, not just nudes and bowls of fruit and plaster skulls. And we encourage them to teach each other, to advise and comment, to realize that there aren’t really authorities when it comes to expressing yourself, there are just examples and stories to get you fired up and going. And finally we want to encourage people to fail, to embrace their mistakes as the rich lessons they are, and to quieten the inner critic that has long driven them from their creativity.
Some people come to our skool wanting very specific sorts of technical lessons — how to draw perspective, how to draw a portrait — and though we cover those sorts of things, we do it more obliquely, more in passing as we go about the business of recording our lives. It’s not for people who really want rigid, formal training, the sort of thing that can be found elsewhere, but I always wonder if that sort of rigidity will really help people or if it just seems like a reassurance that will be able to draw a turtle or a pirate but misses out on the real lessons art can give you about living, about seeing, about taking risks, about yourself.
The irony is that despite our non-traditional approach our students are uploading thousands of amazing, accomplished, moving and gorgeous drawings every day.
How has this impacted your life?
Sketchbook Skool has evolved a lot in the past year. We started with the assumption that we might get a hundred or so students and could do this in our spare time. We had to stop enrollment when the first kourse maxxed out at 2,000. Then we produced our next two kourses and, rather than asking our teachers to shoot their own videos, we hired crews and began shooting across Europe, Australia, and the US. We have now produced dozens of hours of video, enrolled thousands of more students, and hired several people to help us with administration and marketing. It has become pretty much a full time job.
However, I have also just written and illustrated “Art Before Breakfast” and am almost done with “Shut Your Monkey”. I also give a lot of talks at schools. Oh, and I spent a month as an artist in residency in China and Malaysia. And I am still devoted to making my own art too.
So Sketchbook Skool has impacted my life in lots of ways but it is still not my only job!
What similarities do you see between sketching and writing poetry?
I don’t know much about poetry writing but I imagine there are many similarities. My interest is not just in “sketching” but specifically in illustrated journaling which is a combination of drawings and short pieces of prose, mostly very distilled. My favorite sorts of poetry respond to moments of observation and use those glimpses to start a meditation on a larger theme. I think the same is true of my drawing. I called my first memoir “Everyday Matters” and I think lots of poetry has a similar concern. I think good drawings are a combination of polish and spontaneous creation. Too polished and they lose humanity and mystery. Too loose and they lack meaning. I imagine the same is true of writing poetry. Poetry and drawing are both crafts which take practice and habit to get to a point of flow and ease. Do it enough and the struggle lessens and one’s inner feelings are translated into rhythm and line.
I saw on your blog that your new book, “art Before Breakfast”, will be released next Tuesday, could you tell us more about it?
“art Before breakfast: a zillion ways to be more creative no matter how busy you are” is another of my attempts to make drawing and art making more accessible. I believe that creativity can become a habit if taken in small bites that can fit into an otherwise over-filled life. Most people would like to make art but fear that they lack the time and the talent. My new book makes it simple to find moments between life’s events, ten minutes here or there, in which to capture what’s in front of you and meditate up on it. I teach simple techniques that will get even the most fearful novice going as well as ideas that more advanced creative people will be able to use to reanimate their mojos. It’s pocket sized and designed to be a constant companion filled with zillions of ideas and helpful encouragement. Like all my books, I wrote it because I wanted to read it and couldn’t find it anywhere.
To what extent do you believe this also applies to a hesitant poet?
Art making doesn’t have to require lots of equipment, education, “Talent” or time. Instead it should just be a part of life. In “art Before Breakfast” I equate it with the time we used to spend smoking cigarettes. It can be similarly addictive, accompany other activities, be a pleasant process rather than be goal-oriented, and is ultimately really just for you. Unlike cigarettes, writing poetry or drawing in a journal are comparatively inexpensive and non-toxic.
Again, choose any of the sketches on Danny’s Flickr Page for inspiration, and go from there. I really look forward to reading what each of you comes up with.
What to do after you have written:
• Post your poem to your blog
• Add a link to your poem via the ‘Mr Linky’ below
• Read and comment on other people’s work to let them know it’s being read
• Share via your favorite social media platforms
• Above all- have fun!
Greetings, poets. It is always a pleasure to host other artists. Therefore I feel very honored and lucky today to be able to share Danny Gregory’s interview with you.
What an interesting interview, Gabriella. And what excellent drawing examples on Danny’s website. There is so much that Danny Gregory has said about drawing that can also be applied to poetry. Just like drawing, I think, writing poetry helps us focus on the present, focus on something, plug in to the here and now in some very concrete way! I look forward to reading what others write to Danny Gregory’s art.
I also like the idea that illustrated journals are the ‘road map of one’s experience’. I feel the same about the collection of my poems.
wow – that is a decent interview… i “met” danny gregory first when i heard about his book “everyday matters” and it surely made me see the things around me with new eyes… and def. need to sign up for the sketchbook skool when the new semester starts…
It was a great experience. In the future, I’d like to take more classes.
I really liked Danny Gregory’s comment: ” I think good drawings are a combination of polish and spontaneous creation. Too polished and they lose humanity and mystery. Too loose and they lack meaning. I imagine the same is true of writing poetry. ” I think he was very perceptive here really. This definitely does apply to poetry or any kind of writing as well. Too polished in writing may sound stilted. Too loose, I think, lacks consistency and is hard to read. We have to, in drawing as well as writing, find just the right formula!
it is a cool thought and carries much truth as well….
nice…i always love writing to art…
have one up…and another for the morning…
cool that you included the interview as well…allowing us to see the artist behind the art….interesting beginnings….and cool where the journey has taken him…..
I like writing to the art of others too. Yes, this is my first time featuring an artist. Looking forward to reading your new poem and discovering what drawing you have chosen.
I like the aspect of – no matter how busy you are – there should be room for art.. the same thing with poetry .. I find those moments.. and I think it’s good that it is a regular thing.. Love this Gabriella, and a great interview.. 🙂
Thank you, Björn! I think we all need to find the time for the things that allow us to be more creative. Since you write so much, I have always wondered where you find the time.
My husband enrolled me in an online drawing course which I’m not enjoying. I must explore more of this skool. It sounds like it’s down to earth and fun. Thank you Gabriella for this interview. I’m not sure if I’ll find the time to write something but I sure do appreciate that you have introduced me to Danny Gregory
I am glad, Myrna. You should definitely have a look and watch their videos. There is even a free mini course that gives you an idea of what the skool is. As for writing, you can still post tomorrow. 🙂
wow, more computer problems for me, so posted an hour late. Will carry on as best I can before more glitches.
Glad to see you, Glenn…your poem again has an interesting perspective. I bet Danny would be interested in the poem you came up with for the condo sketch….smiles.
i was wondering when i did not see you when the doors opened….smiles…
ugh computer problems suck man…i hope they are short lived….
Glad you are here, Glenn!
Thanks for tending bar, Gabriella. I liked this prompt today and the sketches were cool. I posted mine and hope to get back later to read some other poems. But for now lunch is over and it’s back to work. Peace, Linda
Hey, Linda. I see you are a dog lover too…..what kind do you have?
I have a cockapoo named Roman. I’ve also had cocker spaniels in the past – one that lived to be 18!
Roman is a great dog name. And, wow, 18 for a dog is very long lived.
Thank you, Linda! I am glad you enjoyed the prompt.
Gabriella, what a fantastic prompt! And a stellar interview! What an interesting and talented artist. You are really gifted at interviews. I will keep that in mind. You may find yourself drafted, LOL. I have to go out babysitting, so I will make rounds when I get back, for anyone I’ve missed………
Thank you, Sherry. I appreciate the compliment coming from a great interviewer that you are.
Late in today; I had an eveninig meeting to attend. Thanks for bringing a really interesing interview to the Bar, Gabriella. It was really good to read Danny’s thoughts on art, and his insights into the similarities to our own creative process as poets.
Thank you, Tony. I am glad you enjoyed it. I think we were very lucky Danny took the time to answer so thoroughly.
After trying for some time to copy a picture from Danny’s flicker page I gave up as it wouldn’t allow me to take the image I wanted, must be something I was doing wrong. Oh well me and technology don’t always get along.
But I am having a go never the less.
Food always wins out.
Great, Summerstommy! I will read your poem asap.
Thanks Gabriella for featuring his work and giving us a glimpse of his journey. I really like what he said about art making him slow down to focus on the subject, and making art more accessible, about everyday life ~
Happy Tuesday to all ~ Hitting the trail now, smiles ~
Happy Tuesday to you too, Grace!
I am so glad you enjoyed it all, Grace!
I love the school, love the philosophy of learning and creativity that Danny has developed. I hope my poem is in that spirit.
Thank you for taking part, Susan!
I’m enjoying some of the most inspiring poems thanks to Danny’s art and your prompt. Thanks so much to you, Gabriella and Danny and to all who joined in so far. Still reading.
I agree, Victoria. Some poets have outdone themselves.
I agree too, Victoria. I have read so many excellent poems to this prompt and on such a diversity of topics. I am awed.
I am so happy you are featuring Danny. I love his work ! Great interview-thank you !
You are welcome, Ayala. It was a great pleasure and honor.
Gabriella,
Thanks for the prompt, it is always fun to see where the mind will go when we write to artwork.
It is! You are right Truedessa.
Very interesting……greatful for this….
Thank you Sreeja!
alright….headed to bed…be back in the morning
sleep well bri…
just woke and catching up..
alright – off to work – will be back in the evening…. have a great wednesday everyone!!
Enjoy your day, Claudia!
Love the art works 🙂
Hope you like my fairytale 🙂
Thanks for posting, Anita. Glad you liked the prompt.
i don’t have the time required today to write in response to the prompt, read, and comment on poetry here; however, i just want to say i love Mr. Gregory’s philosophy about Art.. as instructions and guidelines are something i happily escape in the art of dance.. poetry.. and photography.. and even martial arts after dealing with Bureaucratic Government Red Tape Regulations for a quarter of a decade… in FEDERAL employment….
Truly that freedom of ART has changed me from a robot and or Zombie.. into a human being.. AGAIN.. LIKE being reborn.. and what Mr. Gregory is doing can certainly set other he ARTS free AS HEART.. per HUMAN BEING!..:)
Hope you can make it next week, katiemiafrederick. I am glad you liked the interview and found something that spoke to you.
*ugh.. Quarter of a Century…;)
swinging back through….catching up with those reading…
A very interesting interview. I completely agree with Danny about the world becoming so “plugged in” that we lose focus on the little things. I also enjoyed the similarities he spoke of between poetry and art…..” Too polished and they lose humanity and mystery. Too loose and they lack meaning.”
I am so with you. I too can totally relate to this quote abut art and poetry.
Hey Gabriella, Brian, Claudia–I am late, but really liked the interview and here’s a poem.
https://manicddaily.wordpress.com/2015/02/12/gain-said/
Sorry to be so out of it, but can only follow how the spirit moves! Ha. Thanks.
I am never on time, but I so loved this prompt, and Danny’s drawings.
https://purplepeninportland.wordpress.com/2015/02/13/found-hounds/