Good afternoon poets (or evening or morning, depending on where in the world you are). I’m Tony Maude and it’s my pleasure once more to welcome you to Form For All.
As some of you might know, over the past few months I have been attending the Poetry in Practice class run by Edinburgh University’s Office of Lifelong Learning. In this class a group of poets submit examples of their work for scrutiny by their peers and by course tutor Jim Wilson. Our aim is to help each other to improve our poems by becoming more aware of areas of inconsistency and/or confusion in our writing, as well as spotting clichés, mixed metaphors and words which we have a tendency to overuse. One of my weaknesses is an over-fondness for en dashes – smiles.
One week each term Jim has asked us to write one or more cinquains – now you know where I learned to like them – and bring them to the class the next week. Over the course of each ten-week term he also introduces a number of other forms, mostly in response to work that we have submitted. Each term that I have attended we have had a discussion of sonnets, villanelles and sestinas. However, the other week Jim took us by surprise by introducing a form which none of us had written at the time – the Rondelet.
The Rondelet
The Rondelet belongs to a family of poems which all trace their roots back to a 13th Century French form, the Rondeau: the others are the Rondeau Redoublé, the Rondel, the Roundel, the Roundelay, the Triolet and the Kyrielle. What all these forms have in common is that they are poetic rounds; that is they are composed around a repeated refrain. (You are almost certainly familiar with musical rounds, the most famous examples being Frère Jacques, Row,Row, Row Your Boat, She’ll be Coming Round the Mountain, and London Bridge is Falling Down). Of these forms the Rondelet – literally little rondel – is the briefest, consisting of two rhymes over only seven lines laid out as a single stanza with a refrain that appears three times in the poem. Now that is probably as clear as mud, so here’s an example which should help to clarify things;
Rondelet
A rondelet
Is just seven verses rhymed on two.
A rondelet
Is an old jewel quaintly set
In poesy—a drop of dew
Caught in a roseleaf. Lo! For you,
A rondelet.
(Charles Henry Luders, 1889)
Let’s take a closer look at that to see what is going on.
The Form of the Rondelet
The first thing that you’ll have noticed in Rondelet is the refrain which appears as lines 1, 3 and 7 of the poem. In the traditional French form this consists of four syllables (French is not a stressed language like English; each syllable in a word should carry the same stress when pronounced); in English this is more usually two iambs.
The remaining four lines all consist of eight syllables or four iambs. Line four rhymes with the refrain (which means that Luders pronounced rondelet as ron-de-let; the correct pronunciation is ron-de-lay), while the other lines all rhyme with one another. This gives us a rhyme scheme of AbAabbA.
A Confession
Now it’s time for me to make a confession. It seems that the rondelet was not a popular form with the great poets of history. While researching this article, I searched high and low looking for good, freely available examples of rondelets to illustrate it … and, quite honestly, I’d have done just as well searching for dragon’s teeth … smiles. Aside from Luders’ poem above, the only other example I found is The Flowers of June by James T. White, and I only found that because Mary Baker Eddy (more famed as the founder of Christian Science than as a poet) wrote a poem called Rondelet in response to it;
The flowers of June
The gates of memory unbar:
The flowers of June
Such old-time harmonies retune,
I fain would keep the gates ajar,—
So full of sweet enchantment are
The flowers of June.
James T. White
Breaking the Rules
So far we have looked at the traditional form of the Rondelet, but who knows what might happen when this 13th century poetry form is put into the hands of 21st century poets? Could you write several rondelets to form the stanzas in a longer poem? Perhaps you might like to try writing an anapaestic refrain? This would give a first line of six syllables, which would mean the longer lines should be 12 syllables long: four anapaests or six iambs. Or maybe you will bring modern poetry’s slant/half-rhymes to bear on the form? Who says that the refrain has to be repeated exactly word-for-word? And while it might seem that the natural mood of the rondelet is pretty and light, does it have to be?
So what now?
• Write your Rondelet and post it to your blog
• Add a link to your poem via the ‘Mr Linky’ below.
• This opens a new screen where you’ll enter your information, and where you also choose links to read. Once you have pasted your poem’s blog URL and entered your name, click Submit. Don’t worry if you don’t see your name right away.
• Read and comment on other people’s work to let them know it’s being read.
• Share your work and that of your fellow poets via your favourite social media platforms.
• Above all – have fun!
PS That’s six en-dashes and two em-dashes, although I was not responsible for those … smiles.
Welcome folks. To go with our French theme we have champagne, Bordeaux and Cognac. There might even be some absinthe, if that’s legal around these parts … smiles.
Champagne please! I’ve had several goes at the rondelet in the past, but could only find one on my blog (2011!) . I’m too bushed to right a new one tonight, but have linked the old one. Maybe tomorrow I’ll have another go.
Champagne, perfectly chilled, coming right up … smiles
ah i had a nice nostalgia of my own days as a boy in yours viv…
I liked the background a lot… and it was a form that I found attractive… though I think I stepped away little from my stomping iambs today…
Hi Bjorn,
I loved the fact that you didn’t stick to iambs, and your rhymes were really clever.
Got my shoe laces tied together and my feet mixed up: trochee + iamb.
Never mind. They still taste good.
fun to play about with, Tony. Thank you.
Oh yes, Aprille – you presented a delicious set of dessert rondelets.
Thank you for introducing us to this lovely form Tony ~ I enjoyed the background and examples ~ Next time, maybe I can break the rules ~ Smiles ~
Happy Thursday all ~
I’m hopeless at breaking the rules myself … maybe next time for me too … smiles
hey tony—the shelter has power….ha..
crazy afternoon….the storms hit and knocked power out across our end of the city
got caught on the interstate when trees fell across it…
hanging out for a bit…then probably be off for a bit…
but i will be around…
Just as long as you guys are safe; the bar is being treated with respect by the poets – at least for now … smiles
true…it took out a cherry tree out front…missed the house by about 7 feet…woof…at least we can reach the ones on top now…
Always looking at the bright side of the storm, Brian…Cheers!
Was so inspired so I wrote one on twitter for a prompt there… you can actually fit it into a tweet I found… the prompt was “never to far”
never too far
anxiety as you go away
never too far
& whispering au revoir
along disintegrating way
inside I am in disarray
never too far
You have to watch out for these short forms; they are addictive … smiles
🙂 I love micropoetry…
nice…i like the disintegrating way inside a disarray lines bjorn…good bye is never easy…
maybe we should ALL write one to the same refrain, and this is a good one for that.
Or maybe NEVER TOO LATE ???
A great Idea..:-)
Twitter #artwiculate had a 4 syllable word that worked as well… had to squeeze it a little to get it in with the hashtag.
inanition
o craving of an empty cup
inanition
accusation in starvation
a canister of tepid soup
unevenly divided up
inanition
Wow i’ve never heard of this one before! Thanks alot for teaching us something new in poetry 🙂
most def…its fun to learn…put something new in your bag of tricks…
Hey, we like to bring old stuff to new people here at the pub. I hope you enjoyed the challenge of something old/new
I have to say, I almost didn’t do it — hate constraints of a form. But then I decided to try, and guess what? It was fun! Thanks a lot, Tony, for introducing me to this new to me form.
good for you…i used to hate form…i would never do the form challenges but have pushed myself the last year and a half to really try…though i oft break them…ha…
I’m glad you tried it – and even more glad that you enjoyed it. I enjoyed reading the resulting poem.
One of the early writers of free verse – I believe it was either Walt Whitman or Ezra Pound, but I could be wrong – said that to learn how to write free verse, you should write sonnets. By at least trying different forms, you will hopefully see an improvement in your free verse too.
alright, be back in a bit…gonna venture out and see what i can do in the after…
I had to delete my post. I do not speak French. And I made an error with the rhymes. Please delete my entry at MisterLinky.
Will do, Anders.
🙂
really wonderful, well-written prompt, Tony.
Thank you, Jane.
glad you made it back jane
It’s very nearly dark here in Scotland, which is a hint that it might be time for me to get some sleep. I’ll be back tomorrow to catch up with the overnights.
Good night, Tony. By the way I wonder about the pronunciation of “rondelet”. According to Google the word is pronounced differently in French and in English, but in none of the languages, according to Google, they say “ron-de-lay”.
It might depend on how you pronounce the middle syllable. The last syllable is pronounced lay/ley rather than let – or at least that’s how I learned it. It’s the same for triolet, although there are variant pronunciations that have become accepted.
sleep well tony…nicely played today…powers back so i will be in and out..
Here’s a little something. Playing in the form was fun, but of course, I tried to make it serious and ballad like. Hmmph.
ha. i tried a serious one too before the one i posted…it did not turn out nearly as good as yours did…smiles…its in the vault…
I tried to make this usually light form pretty macabre, with questionable results … smiles. I enjoyed reading your piece, Susan.
Hi Tony, I really like form poetry; and I enjoyed very much the rondelet. I am feeling a bit sad today…..observing the passing of time and the changes….thus I wrote a poem about my feelings about today. Thank you for your prompt.
hugs mary.
I can relate to your sadness Mary ~ Hugs to you too ~
Isn’t that part of why we write – to record our thoughts and feelings, to help ourselves to process what’s going on in our lives, or is that just me?
alright, bedtime just a little early for me but i will be back early before i start chopping away at the tree…
Thank you for this form Tony. Enjoyed it. You are about these short forms not good for an addictive personality LOL
Thanks for playing along, Cressida – I’m glad you had fun with the form. I enjoyed reading your chained rondelets.
oops You are right about…
good morning…just wanted to say hi..came back home late yesterday and have an early appointment at work… will be back in the PM to catch up with you…happy friday everyone.. and thanks tony for rocking the rondelets bar…smiles
Hi Claudia. I’ll maybe see you on the trail later.
Have attempted a Roundel but not a roundelet. Wonderful write up and breaking the rules is little comforting! 🙂 Will come in some tim todasy. it is Friday morning IST 10 AM here.
There’s one consolation to being stuck in bed with a heavy cold — I get plenty of time to do the Form For All prompt! I found this one surprisingly challenging but I enjoyed having a go.
The rondelet is deceptive; it looks easy, then it looks hard, then it’s written … smiles.
..get well soon Rosemary… smiles…
…coming late and slow like a turtle as always… i have spent almost a day (since last night) before i have finally settled to my chosen refrain… challenging but really interesting & fun to do…. thanks Tony.. smiles…
**if any of you will encounter technical glitch re: viewing & commenting on my page well it maybe due to the transition process my blog page is currently undergoing… i just decided to finally get my own custom domain for my poetry and blogger is redirecting my old blog address to the new one and it will take at most 3 days to fully complete the process so my new blog address will be available entirely in the internet… for the meantime i’ll post my link to my attempt at rondelet here just in case the one posted in mr linky didn’t work:
http://www.kelvinsm.blogspot.com/2013/06/farewell-sweet-bird.html
..smiles…
The linky works fine – although there was some strange stuff going on when I commented on your poem, which, sir, is very good – the poem, not the strange stuff … smiles.
Very lovely poem Kelvin but I couldn’t comment as it brought me elsewhere ~
Posted mine and read a few too. Amazed at the diversity of the creation.
…and i loved yours Akila… smiles…
Very nice article, Tony, amazing that this isn’t a more popular form.
Thanks, Sam. I really struggled to find examples by the great poets of the past.
kevin,
your link is busted..i went looking for it to fix it but could not find it….will keep it up in case you get it fixed…
b
…yay… i don’t think it will get fixed… i guess the only remedy i can offer is for anyone commenting on mine to insert the word ‘blogspot.’ in between ‘kelvinsm.’ & ‘com’ to redirect them to the normal flow if ever they were sent to somewhere like google search blah…blah…blah… ah, if i had thought obtaining your own custom domain would take this long to process i should’ve done it some other time… really wrong timing… hope it will get finished before poetics or i might possibly not link at all… don’t wanna put additional burden to my readers in figuring out how to fix the glitch… anyway… thanks Brian…
i just tried and the link leads me straight to your site…so seems to be ok again..
…thanks Claudia… i have added a note to my latest post prior to my suggestion… been spending too much time since i got home from work trying to fix the issue but couldn’t find any better solution but the one i suggested… smiles…
I think there’s been some confusion between Kelvin and Kevin Connelly here.
yep it was kevin…smiles
Thanks for this new form. 🙂
You’re welcome, Imelda. AS I said above, it’s great to be able to introduce old forms to contemporary poets and see the results… smiles
oooh, beautiful form, Tony – and quite a brain teaser, too! thank you for the introduction… now off to read 🙂
nice mirror effect in yours…and hey thanks for visiting others out there as well…i just caught up and was chasing you around the circuit…smiles.
thanks to randy as well…
haha were you…
i still have a lot of catching up to do! i read whenever i can and as much as i can… it’s such a pleasure to read the works of our fellow poets – every time i am here, i wish for a couple of extra hours – just to kick back and read 🙂
At first the form seems quite restrictive, but there have been some really imaginative responses – like yours. You’ll have fun on the trail, Miriam.
way late but finally made it back…and catching up…
Hope you’re feeling better than yesterday, Claudia
yes, feeling much better – thanks tony..
Is Mr. Linky broken? Or is it just me who can’t access anymore?
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The requested URL /linkies/links.php was not found on this server.
The linky worked fine for me.
oh it’s working again – thankfully. must have been my computer then… i shall have words with him.
sometimes you may have to refresh…i dont know why but its happened to me before as well miriam…
thanks for the heads up, Brian – it was really weird. i think my wordpress session timed out and that caused the problem. had to log back in after the ‘linky-incident’… 🙂
Yes, the link is working. Tony, thanks for the form. It looks deceptively simple but, was rather hard to put across. I tried do it in French – I couldn’t at all. It was just too difficult.
Tough one!
Kudos for even trying it in French – I expect the effect is quite different compared to the way the form worls in English.
I always wanted to try absinthe even though I don’t like licorice but I do like the image of me drinking it.
Never even been tempted by absinthe … but it has a strong reputation.
Hey Tony, Brian, Claudia – I missed Mr. Linky by 6 minutes. Ha. But did get one written at last. Thanks for the challenge. k.
Hi Karin,
I’ve added your rondelet to Mr Linky. Glad you took up the challenge; the result was definitely worth it … smiles
whew. just made it… and this was hard. I hope mine makes some sort of sense. Thank goodness we had leniency to “play” with the form a bit.
I didn’t make it through all the comments, but I will in the morning be back.
For me, form is a starting point, not a strait-jacket, although I do find trying to work to a given form’s constraints challenges my creativity and has me searching for ways to say things that I might never have either considered or found otherwise.
I rushed my poem about the ravens as it was 11:45 and I wanted to participate. I did have to resort to near rhyme, but did not meant to skip a line. (6 instead of 7). I am going to make it 7 and will repost on Tuesday Open Link Night. Thanks for hosting and I DO love form challenges. I am a lazy free-verser and have been surprised some of my favorites are the form poetry I was challenged to write
smiles…you are alright margaret…happens to the best of us at some point or another…doing form has def taught me much more on the craft and art of poetry…as i resort to free verse quite often myself…
Well folks, that’s the bar tidied up again. I’m sending the keys on over to Fred, who will be welcoming us back to the pub at 3pm EST today!
Started from scratch just to share….Sorry I expired!
Forgive me? It is only the 3rd time ever….