Hello poets and welcome to this week’s Meeting the Bar challenge at dVerse. My name is Tony Maude and today I am bringing something that I think is totally new, although I stand to be corrected.
One of my favourite forms … and one I often turn to when I’m stuck … is the (American) Cinquain, invented by Adelaide Crapsey. Way back when I began hosting, this was the first form challenge that I chose to bring to the Pub.
Adelaide Crapsey
For those who are unfamiliar with it, the Cinquain is a five-line poem. The first and last lines each have 2 syllables, with the intervening lines having 4, 6 and 8 syllables respectively. (I say syllables, but it would be more technically correct to say that the first and final lines have 1 stress, with the second, third and fourth lines having 2, 3 and 4 stresses.)
Here’s an example by Adelaide herself:
Moon-shadows
Still as
On windless nights
The moon-cast shadows are,
So still will be my heart when I
am dead.
This form first came to public notice with the posthumous publication of Adelaide Crapsey’s only poetry collection, entitled Verse, in 1915. This collection contained 28 examples of her new cinquains … and since then poets worldwide have produced thousands more.
Last week Brian challenged us to take a poetry form … and then to deliberately break it. After overcoming my initial reluctance to ‘break the rules’ I chose to work with the cinquain, breaking it by adding an extra syllable to each line, giving a five-line poem with lines of 3, 5, 7, 9 and 3 syllables in that order… and, of course, giving myself some nice, new rules to work with … smiles. Having been in the doldrums for a while, I chose to write about not being able to write … another favourite tactic of mine when I’m stuck. This is the poem I came up with:
No Words
His pen lies
coated in neglect,
cold and lifeless on the desk
beside an empty page as barren
as his mind.
In the comments I received, several members of the Pub community said that this looked like a ‘new form’ they would like to try their hands at, so here’s your chance. But before you reach for your pen/pencil/keyboard/tablet etc,
Let’s take a quick look at what this new form offers
Firstly, whereas Adelaide Crapsey’s cinquain is a metric form (hardly surprising since she made a detailed study of metrics in English language poetry), each line in this form has an odd number of syllables. This means that, unlike the American cinquain, you cannot write an iambic poem in this form (you could try writing in dactyls, amphibrachs and/or anapaests if you want). Put more positively, you are freed from the tyranny of the iamb!
Secondly, you have a little more space to express yourself in. Five extra syllables may not seem like much, but it’s an addition of almost a quarter to the 22 syllables of the traditional cinquain. That said, you still need precision in your use of language.
Thirdly, just as with the cinquain proper, there are a number of obvious variations on this theme. You could reverse the order of the lines, write a two stanza poem where the form of the stanzas mirror each other, or you could write a garland or even a coronet of these ‘cinquains’.
Lastly, if this form has as much potential as I hope it does … and if it is genuinely new … then it needs a name. Suggestions are welcome in the comments below.
Here’s what to do now:
• Write your poem and post it to your blog.
• Add a link to your poem via the ‘Mr Linky’ below.
• This opens a new screen where you’ll enter your information. This is also where you choose links to read. Once you have pasted your poem’s blog URL and entered your name, click Submit. Don’t worry if you don’t see your name right away; try refreshing the page and your link should appear in the list.
• Please do take time to read and comment on other people’s work to let them know it’s being read. It is this aspect of what we do here that builds our community and helps each of us to develop as poets.
• Share your work and that of your fellow poets via your favourite social media platforms.
• Above all – have fun!
Welcome, welcome one and all. Here in Scotland it’s a crisp, cold night. There’s snow on the ground and a chill in the air. So come on in to the pub, pull up a chair by the fire and let’s write/read some poetry … smiles
Here it’s wet and cold.. it suits me fine with being in the warmth of the bar.
I enjoyed this a lot.. the odd number of syllable made it different.. and I enjoyed it..
Glad you enjoyed it, Björn. The odd number of syllables does give rise to some interesting rhythms.
27 syllables lies between the 17 of a haiku and the 31 of the tanka too …
true – as for inspirations I read the dictionary, or look at pictures..
How about the “Maudern Cinquain”…I look forward to trying my hand at this form. 🙂
Ha, love that name!
I’ve given it some thought … and my ego is not sufficiently inflated to try naming anything after myself … I’m leaning towards Edinburgh Cinquain as a name for the form; if it’s genuinely new.
Ha.. that’s a great name.
Yay Maudern Cinquain!
i’ll vote for “maudern” cinquain, very clever 🙂
Here it’s pouring, pouring… all I can hope is that further up the mountain it’s snowing, snowing… Brrr… good time for poetry, methinks, and roasting chestnuts and mulled wine…
My suggestion for a name for this form is Topolino, which was the nickname for the original Fiat 500 – it’s got that cute compact form, but is surprisingly spacious…
Very nice.. that is a name that will stick.. We can start spreading it as a hashtag on twitter 🙂
Ooooh, Topolino … I quite like that … smiles
I like topofino as well….
This was an interesting form to work with, Tony. I agree that an additional syllable in each line gives a bit more flexibility.
That’s what I found too; sometimes the original cinquain is just a little bit too restrictive.
it does some cool things with the rhythm of the piece as well…
I really want to try this! Cinquains are also one of my goto’s. They are so reliable and inspirational. If I don’t get by to post, I will go around and see what’s being offered.
I think, for me, the thing about cinquains is that they force you to think hard about your word choices ,,, and to concentrate on the moment; there’s no room to do much more than that.
Of course, Adelaide Crapsey was hugely influenced by the imagism of the haiku; she wanted something that worked better with English language metrics, so she invented the cinquain.
I’ve just gone and broken it … smiles
It’s a very good break. 😉
Definitely more freedom with the extra syllables..I enjoyed this, too. Thanks.
Hi Tony, everyone ~ I have some errands to do but will try my best to drop by and participate later ~
Also, we have OLN this Saturday, so for those super late entries, please feel free to share your work by then ~
Keep safe, Grace – and I’ll maybe catch you later, if I haven’t deserted my post to get some sleep … smiles
ok, not my go to…but…ha….
I had fun with this…and yes I was a bit fast and loose,
but I will blame that on the syllable counter online
as I ran each line through it to count them for me…
so I really tried not to break it….legit….
I really wouldn’t want to see this reduced to an exercise in syllable counting; chopped up prose lies down that road.
Did you like the tags, Brian? … smiles
heh. its nice to see someone else having fun in the tags…smiles.
It’s time for me to head to bed.. I hope I can catch up in the morning.. 🙂
Good night, Björn.
Good Night Tony..
night bjorn…
It is always good to expand one’s writing patterns but for someone to expand a poem form is truly heroic! Being a writer (or trying to be) of mainly haiku, I found this form to be like being able to run down the beach barefoot and hatless without having to worry about beached jellyfish, sharp shells, sunburn, and crowds. I do like Maudern Cinquain. I was going to go for Nottatanka but the other is much better. Or Cinquain a la Maude. I had fun with this form. Thank you!
Glad you had fun with it; that little bit of extra room really does give you a lot more freedom.
I’ve never really got the hang of writing haiku; perhaps this form will be a step in that direction for me.
I don’t know if I have the hang of haiku either. I just try to follow the rules and not write fauxku…sometimes though, I get it right. You know that feeling? Sometimes, I do. And when I read poems of others, I can only hope they get that same feeling..
I don’t know why Mister Linky gives me so much grief, I never know if I did it correctly.
You’re there OK; I’m just on my way over to read 🙂
hey tony…. sorry… i*m way late… was a full day… long day at work and then had to finish a painting for the online class i’m taking at the moment….
i have written a little something but i have a backlog of comments from poetics as well because of a biz trip to zürich yesterday…. ugh… will see if i manage to jump in tomorrow….
i think the form is way cool and i like marina’s suggestion…ha… smiles
Hi Boss,
Nice to see you. Work does have a way of interfering with the rest of our lives; you either have too much or too little.
Looing forward to seeing he Schoenfeld twist applied to this … smiles
Ok folks, I’m off to catch some zzzzzzzzzzz …
See you all tomorrow … smiles
sleep well tony…
Here – I have just looked outside – the world has a frosting of ice – no snow yet. Nevertheless I am surrounded by warmth, part of this due to you igniting my (poetic) fire Tony. Many thanks!
hey anna! how have you been?
Bearing up dear Brian. Things are better now but hubbies placement is only ‘temporary’ (although five months in) so returning to the – I don’t know – the ?hell my life had become is still a possibility. Such are the budgets and power of social services…
Loadsa love
Anna :o]
I aim to please, Anna … smiles
Sorry, Tony–my vote goes to Maudern Cinquain.
I may make it in tomorrow. I spent the day working with a friend who is hosting a book launch/tea for me next week and tomorrow is a bit crazy too. So, if not–I owe you two for OLN.
I do like what you’ve done with this–thanks for sharing.
I can’t go for that, Victoria; it smacks of self-indulgnece or arrogance.
I’ll look out for your contribution; it’s sure to be good … smiles
I enjoyed writing to this form very much, Tony.
Glad you enjoyed it.
In terms of forms, I think we might have a winner … smiles
alright, my turn to hit the sack…
see you in the AM….
… and my turn to awaken to a new day.
Sleep well, Brian
How immensely enjoyable! Thak you, Tony. Suggested name: Cinq-qui reste or cinqui reste (five odd/leftover) But I also like Mauden Cinquain. I’ll be back to read at least a few poems a day, as usual, until I catch up.
Really pleased that you enjoyed this … I’m about to hit the trail to catch the overnights … smiles
Some lovely stuff out on the trail … I’ll be back later to catch any more entries.
Told you in my comments at your blog, Tony, how much I appreciate your new form. It’s wonderful.
Thank you, Lydia. Glad we’ve managed to bring you out of blog hibernation too 🙂
just tried my hands, hope it turns out well
I’ll be round soon … thanks for playing … smiles
my pleasure, my fun
hope you take the time to read others as well…
sure, I do that always…….something I resolve to anyway. Thanks for the reminder.
Well, mundane but practical and descriptive, I would simply have called it an extended cinquain — in fact that’s how I did describe it at my blog. But I’m another who likes maudern cinquain (perhaps without initial capitals if that will make you feel less egotistical, Tony!). After all, we have the Kelly lune and Collum lune, not to mention the Shakespearian, Petrachan and Spenserian sonnets. Topolino seems to me to be stretching it a bit, sorry — no obvious connection to the form, and one would have to go into extra explanation. But it’s Tony’s choice in the end. Anyway, it was fun to play with. I was one who said, when you first came up with it, that I’d like to have a go, so I’m glad of the opportunity, thanks. (And it won’t be the last time.)
Thanks Rosemary.
I doubt that Jack Collum called his lunes ‘Collum Lunes’; I expect that’s what others referred to them as in order to distinguish them from the Kelly lune.
That being the case, if people want to name this after me, then I’ll be hugely flattered, but it’s not a choice I should make.
Back out on the trail to catch up now … smiles
Should we run a poll? 1st, 2nd and 3rd preferences of these choices: Extended cinquain / expanded cinquain / Maudern cinquain / Topolino / Tonequain. My order of preference: 1) Maudern cinquain 2) expanded cnquain 3) extended cinquain.
There must be various ways one could expand or extend a cinquain. The term Maudern cinquain identifies this particular variation. So I am going to use it from now on as my name for it, as I expect to use the form again from time to time.
good morning poets….catching up with the overnights….
happy Friday….
I get to ride in a cop car today…maybe they will let me play with the siren…ha….
woot!!
have fun… smiles
Ha.. I have ridden in a cop care.. and I tried to get out the back door by simply opening it.. 🙂 Just getting help when I locked the car key into the car.
yep. back in the day I was with the sheriffs dept for a while..
so I have been in one quite a few times…
today I had to help serve papers on a student…oy…
boy were they shocked…ha
tony… here’s my apology…. my cinquain was about a fish i met at zürich train station…. i didn’t manage though to really fit him in – not even with your extra syllables… and i ran out of time – so – you will get an official apology poem for oln…. including the fish…
No need to apologise, Claudia; life gets in the way for us all sometimes, and sometimes the prompt just doesn’t fit the words we have … smiles
I’m having a go at this…not my forte so definitely good for me to try a put some more disciplione into the lines…not completely sucessful I’m afraid Tony!!
These short forms really do make you weigh every word carefully; you don’t have space to waste being verbose … smiles.
My Snowdrops poem went through about ten drafts before it came out as published on my blog, so I know it’s not as easy as it looks.
Love this new form. I’m not a fan of trying to figure out iambs – the whole concept seems to baffle me for some reason. So I was glad to not have to even think about it! Got mine written this morning and am hoping to be back to read some poems at lunch. For now it’s off to work. Peace, Linda
Meter is something that some people find easy … and others don’t. To really get the feel of iambic meter you can do no better than to read the classical poets; Shakespeare, Shelley, Keats et al. After a while you find yourself speaking in meter … smiles.
Ha.. I find that I write my documents at work in meter sometimes .. I think it’s a little bit of a bug inside my brain that you help me get rid of Tony,
Nice, Tony… I liked your example and the oddity (dare I say ‘strict oddity’) of your invention…
Ruth! great to see you!
how are you?
strictly odd … there are some who might say that this sums me up pretty well … smiles
Don’t kill me Tony. I lke your “Tonequain, but I just had to put a twist on it. lol
No-one gets hurt around here; I’m just glad to prompt people to write something … smiles
I’m in Trinidad and largely offline but saw this and wanted to try it. Thanks, Tony.
What fun! I had bits of a formulating tribute poem that coalesced thanks to your great form!
I love it when a poem comes together … smiles
I am very sorry to the Blogger folks here. For some reason, I have trouble publishing my comment in your page. 😦
Thank you to everyone who joined in – and special thanks that so many of yul have taken time to visit and comment on each others writing.
There are some fabulous poems on the trail; it’s well worth reading them all. And I think we need to agree on a name.
I don’t like Maudern cinquain; if you have to name the form after me then please don’t alter my actual name.
Maybe we should call them dVerse cinquains in tribute to everyone who has helped to show the versatility of the form.
Now I need to tidy up and get the bar ready for Open Link Night … maybe I’ll catch y’all later.
Hiya Tony, Only just, rather belatedly, caught up with this. Have felt and pondered on it for a while today and yes, I think the new form you have here is equally elegant and offers great scope and potential – especially for firing up the batteries again! And see no reason why this shiny little piece shouldn’t also go straight into the Moleskin for the time being… With Best Wishes Scott http://www.scotthastie.com
I scheduled my post and clearly took to long, lol. But here is my attempt. https://chasinglifeandfindingdreams.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/life-of-passion/
i am sure if you visit some of the others…you will get a few that come back to visit you..