Today, for Meeting the Bar, I’d like us to take a look at a characteristic of writing that we usually associate with prose and consider how we might use it in our poetry. I’m speaking of writing dialogue.
A few general points about writing effective dialogue:
• When writing dialogue, avoid phrases that don’t add meaning to the story or poem—“How are you?” “I’m fine.”—that sort of meaningless talk.
• To be believable, dialogue shouldn’t be an information dump. You’ll see it sometimes in fiction. An author, wanting to depart background information, has one speaker give a lengthy discourse on, say, the science behind…whatever.
• Dialogue takes place between two or more people, or as self-talk. It’s often effective in poetry when written in the second person—often to express an emotion. The listener can be implied.
• Sometimes what is not said is what is striking, or what is apparent through non-verbal communication: actions and body language.
• A great exercise to practice writing good dialogue is to go to a public place, a pub or coffee shop, for example, and listen to others speaking. Take notes.
• Natural dialogue often contains a fair amount of fragments and contractions. It doesn’t always (often) follow the rules of grammar. There may be frequent interruptions.
• In writing dialogue, it’s important to consider the background and personality of the character speaking, so that the word patterns are true to character.
Here are a couple of examples of dialogue poetry:
Death is a Dialogue between
The Spirit and the Dust.
Emily Dickinson
Public Domain
“Dissolve” says Death — The Spirit “Sir
I have another Trust” —
Death doubts it — Argues from the Ground —
The Spirit turns away
Just laying off for evidence
An Overcoat of Clay.
And a longer one, addressed to another, an implied. anonymous listener:
Just Keep Quiet and Nobody Will Notice
Ogden Nash
There is one thing that ought to be taught in all the colleges,
Which is that people ought to be taught not to go around always making apologies.
I don’t mean the kind of apologies people make when they run over you or borrow five dollars or step on your feet,
Because I think that is sort of sweet;
No, I object to one kind of apology alone,
Which is when people spend their time and yours apologizing for everything they own.
You go to their house for a meal,
And they apologize because the anchovies aren’t caviar or the partridge is veal;
They apologize privately for the crudeness of the other guests,
And they apologize publicly for their wife’s housekeeping or their husband’s jests;
If they give you a book by Dickens they apologize because it isn’t by Scott,
And if they take you to the theater, they apologize for the acting and the dialogue and the plot;
They contain more milk of human kindness than the most capacious diary can,
But if you are from out of town they apologize for everything local and if you are a foreigner they apologize for everything American.
I dread these apologizers even as I am depicting them,
I shudder as I think of the hours that must be spend in contradicting them,
Because you are very rude if you let them emerge from an argument victorious,
And when they say something of theirs is awful, it is your duty to convince them politely that it is magnificent and glorious,
And what particularly bores me with them,
Is that half the time you have to politely contradict them when you rudely agree with them,
So I think there is one rule every host and hostess ought to keep with the comb and nail file and bicarbonate and aromatic spirits on a handy shelf,
Which is don’t spoil the denouement by telling the guests everything is terrible, but let them have the thrill of finding it out for themselves.
Notice the casual conversational tone he creates using a sort of stream-of-consciousness flow that isn’t formal.
For today’s prompt, write a poem that is either entirely conversational, includes snippets of conversation, or shows some form of non-verbal communication. Let’s not use written communication like a letter for this one–that’s another prompt. This poem implies a speaker and a listener(s). Please limit it to 24 lines or less and include a link to this post in your own post.
Here’s how to play:
• Write your poem;
• Post it on your blog or website;
• Click on Mr. Linky at the bottom of this post and enter your name and the direct URL of your post.
• Come to the pub and visit other poets’ work. Take time to comment and while you’re at it, order up your favorite wine, or brew. My husband tells me I make a killer Manhattan.
• Have fun!
For dVerse Poets, this is Victoria, happy to be stirring up the poetry pot. Today, I will be late to the pub but I’ve left a big pitcher on the bar, so help yourself, get to know your friends and sip, share poetry. I will be in later.
Good day, Poets! The pub is now open. Victoria is not able to make it right away, but she will be here to interact with guests as soon as she can make it!
I found this challenge very interesting. And, thank you, Victoria, for your excellent examples….and for the excellent poem that you have linked as well. There are so many different ways people can use conversation in a poem, so I will look forward to seeing some of those ways in the poems that each of you shares.
Mary, thanks so much for taking care of business today–my afternoon went on so much longer than I anticipated. At any rate, I’m glad to see everyone who’s made it so far, and hope to see more of you later. I’ll check comments and then I’m out on the trail.
Glad you are here, Victoria.
Gee folks, there is no way I could stay within 24 lines; weighed in a slim 52, creating a haibun as well. I do use dialogue a lot, sometimes exclusively. It can bring the poem to life, give it a sense of immediacy.
I enjoyed yours, Glenn; it kind of sounded like it was a bit of your philosophy of life!
You do conversations well. I’m not good with them. One of m favorite writers of Conversation is JD Salinger. It was hard for me to limit to 24 but I managed…barely!
I expected you do well on this.. I guess you could almost have taken one of your cinemactic scripts… 🙂
Your script writing has to be a key element in your dialogue success. Looking forward to reading.
I found this interesting as well. It stretched me because conversation is not one of the things I do well. I respected the prompt and the line limit, but it was hard because of all the conversations my grandmother and I had while picking figs, or baking a cake, or just walking. This prompt makes me realize I need to open my usual “style” some.
I do think prompts like this stretch one’s style. I think that is one of the good things about Meeting the Bar! I thought it was very cool that your poem was written in the form of a conversation between you & your grandmother!
It was one of many conversations we had in our lives together. She was quite a communicator – in so many different ways.
What a fun idea. I confess, I had to double up a lot of lines myself to get it within the limits. Perhaps this wasn’t a good prompt to restrain like that.
No. I think it is good for us to learn to be creative and to work within limits. I find myself thinking more and differently than if I just rip out things without thought or trying to figure a way to make it better. You know I’m all for saying something in 20 words instead of 60. And good to see you! I hope your friend is doing well!
Thanks, Toni–he’s being discharged today. Much better.
I really loved this as a way of branching out.. Searched for playwright and yes Pinter was a great example.. 😉 just came from a performance of Mahler’s 3rd symphony and will browse your writing on my way home.
Yes, I think the prompt helped us (those who have posted so far) branch out in various directions. I think a good prompt can do that!
You are so fortunate to have access to so many concerts, Bjorn–that has to be a wonderful source of inspiration.
This sounds like an awesome prompt, but since I’m barely finding time to get through the Monday haibuns and am swamped with other things, I’m going to have to skip it. But I may try this out at a later time, maybe share for an OLN when things slow down. Peace, Linda
We still have this open 48 hours so there is plenty of time if you could find it.
I’ve done that at times, not be able to make a prompt but get to it for OLN and note it accordingly. I wish we all could live in a world where we had plenty of time for all we want/need to do!!! Take care of yourself, son, and sweet dog.
I think you would be good at this kind of writing, Linda.
I’ve had that kind of week, too, Linda–hope to see a response from you at OLN if not later on this one.
Hey everyone,
This is my first time writing dialogue.. and I must say it was quite challenging and fun 🙂 sharing my poem “Close your eyes” hope you all it 🙂
Lots of love,
Sanaa
Ah.. I will read it before I head to bed.
Awww.. thank you Bjorn 😀
Always good to challenge oneself a bit. Smiles.
It surely is.. and so rewarding 🙂
Sanaa–thanks so much for taking the challenge. As Grace has noted, stretching ones boundaries like that is a great way to grow as a writer. Hope more are up to it this week.
You’re most welcome Victoria 🙂
It was a lovely prompt!!
xoxo
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I will drop by in the morning for a fresh brew 🙂
Thanks for your help, Bjorn. I’ll put the pot on to brew before I go to bed–morning for you.
Thank you Mary for taking care of us!!!!
Ah, I look upon it as a team effort.
I know you do and it is great we are willing to help each other out when we need it.
Mary is so good at that…very special team member. Thank you.
Thanks, Victoria!!
Oh.. I love this prompt.. Victoria.. and of course this is my mainstay style of writing stream of consciousness free verse poetry.. and truly it is the way my ancestors of Great Aunt and Great Uncle both living until their Md-90’s speak natural in a wave of flowing communication that will last hours on end.. where emotions are the rule of flow.. and not COLD HARD FACTS OR COLD HARD FORM.. OF COLON AND SEMICOLON LIFE.. smiles.. i wondered when i would become human too.. and my words tale me back.. smiles again..:)
Will be back to read and comment on all later.. as usual..
smilesX3.. this is definitely a lost human art..
that NEEDS TO DESPERATELY
COME BACK IN A
TWITTER WORLD
OF SHORT
ACRONYMS
AND BLURBS
BEFORE HUMANS
fade away
in the
shallows
of life
forever…..
sad is what it is..
in my opinion.. and
that is the opinion of
my Great Aunt Jettie
before she passes away
and gives me this gift as
well to carry on as a wayward
son
of sorts…
Great Aunt Jane–a wise woman.
Thanks Victoria.. Smiles..:)x2:)!
Thanks Victoria for the information and the examples ~ I am not used to putting dialogue in my poems so I will have to see what I can do ~
Looking forward to it, Grace. So grateful you took a chance. I guess I took the easy way out, just using the 2nd person.
Loved it!
Thank you ~
Thought I would play along – not sure how I did but the spirit spoke
And how well you listened. So stunning.
A beautiful share Truedessa ~
Stepping out for the evening now. I will be in and out tomorrow. Hope to find more dialogues when I drop in. ‘Night all.
A very interesting prompt today Victoria…doing this form for the first time, hope it’s okay…i’ll make my rounds later today….
Glad you’re here, Sumana–looking forward to reading it…now!
This was truly a learning experience. The advice that stuck out for me was…
“Sometimes what is not said is what is striking”.
Victoria, thank you for a very informative post and prompt. It took me to a place of reflection and emotion, putting a piece of my heart on paper.
You’re so welcome–you poem was quite powerful.