Tags
Dylan Thomas, ghazal, kyrielle, Leigh Hunt, Pantoum, Repetition, rondeau, rondolet, Sylvia Plath, Tony Maude, Triolet, villanelle, W.H. Auden
Good evening/afternoon/morning poets. My name is Tony Maude and it’s my pleasure and privilege to once again act as your host here at dVerse … smiles
The last few times I have been behind the bar I have invited you to return to the roots of our craft and think about poetry as an aural experience – as a spoken-word art form. So far we have looked at the effects of rhythm/meter and rhyme. Today I would like us to consider the use of repetition in our verse.
Poetry and Music
One way to think about the art of prosody – that is writing poems – is to compare and contrast it with writing music. In music, the basic unit of a piece is the bar. Each bar contains a set number of beats and each beat is of a set length. So in a piece of music written in 4/4 time, each bar contains four beats; in 6/8 time each bar contains six beats etc.
As the bar is to music, so the line is to poetry. In traditional form poetry each line of verse contains a set number of poetic feet; trimeter has three feet, tetrameter has four, pentameter has five etc.
In music, the second factor in determining the rhythm of a piece is the length of the notes in each bar. So a minim lasts 2 beats, a crotchet lasts 1 beat, a quaver is a half-beat note etc. A typical bar in 4/4 time contains four crotchets; in 6/8 time there are 6 quavers in a bar etc.
It’s similar in poetry, except that where composers work with notes, we work with poetic feet; iambs, dactyls, amphibrachs etc. When we analyse a line of poetry, we are looking both for the number and type of feet that it contains. So, for example, a line of iambic pentameter contains five iambic feet like this;
ti tum/ ti tum/ ti tum/ ti tum/ ti tum
The sound/ of pass/ing traff/ic fills/ my ears.
Another device in musical composition is the use of repeated phrases – the repetition of the ‘da da da dah’ phrase at the beginning of Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony is a fine example of this – or, in songwriting, the use of a chorus – a part of the song that is sung more than once.
As it is for composers, so it is for poets; we are also able to make use of repetition. And while we rarely if ever write complete choruses, we can (and many poets do) make use of repeated words, phrases and even one or more complete lines.
Repetition of a Single Word
By repetition of a single word as a poetic device I don’t mean the repeated use of line-ending words called for in the sestina, so everyone can relax, me included … smiles. What I mean is the deliberate use of the same word two or more times in direct succession. Here’s an example:
The word of a snail on the plate of a leaf?
It is not mine. Do not accept it.
Acetic acid in a sealed tin?
Do not accept it. It is not genuine.
A ring of gold with the sun in it?
Lies. Lies and a grief.
(from The Couriers by Sylvia Plath)
Can you see/hear the way that the impact of the word ‘lies’ is emphasised by repetition?
Here’s another example:
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
(from Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night by Dylan Thomas)
Again, did you sense the intensity of feeling created by the repetition of the word ‘rage’?
I’m not aware of a poetry form that requires this type of repetition (I stand to be corrected on that … smiles). Perhaps you could invent one?
Repetition of a Phrase
Repetition of a phrase within a poem can be used in a number of ways; to tie a poem together, to emphasise the theme of a poem etc. Many of the traditional poetry forms make use of the device of a repeated phrase (also known as a rentrement or refrain). These include the rondeau, the rondolet, the ghazal (see also here), the rondel and the roundel (be warned, these forms are likely to appear in future MTB articles from me … smiles). But the use of a repeated phrase is not limited to traditional forms. For example:
Jenny kiss‘d me when we met,
Jumping from the chair she sat in;
Time, you thief, who love to get
Sweets into your list, put that in!
Say I‘m weary, say I‘m sad,
Say that health and wealth have miss‘d me,
Say I‘m growing old, but add,
Jenny kiss‘d me.
(Jenny Kiss‘d Me by Leigh Hunt)
It seems to me that the key to this type of repetition is to find a phrase that actually merits repeated use in your work. It’s not as easy as you might think … smiles.
Perhaps you might like to explore the use of a repeated phrase in a traditional form? Or you might like to invent your own form that includes the use of a refrain?
Repetition of One or More Lines
We can, of course, choose to repeat one or more entire lines in our poems – and this is done in several traditional forms. But if finding a phrase that bears repeated use in a poem is hard, then finding one or more lines that are truly worthy of repetition is fiendishly difficult. (Perhaps this difficulty goes a long way to explaining why truly great villanelles are few and far between?) However, it can be done, as this villanelle by W H Auden demonstrates:
Time can say nothing but I told you so,
Time only knows the price we have to pay;
If I could tell you, I would let you know.
If we should weep when clowns put on their show,
If we should stumble when musicians play,
Time can say nothing but I told you so.
There are no fortunes to be told, although
Because I love you more than I can say,
If I could tell you, I would let you know.
The winds must come from somewhere when they blow,
There must be reasons why the leaves decay;
Time can say nothing but I told you so.
Perhaps the roses really want to grow,
The vision seriously intends to stay;
If I could tell you, I would let you know.
Suppose the lions all get up and go,
And all the brooks and soldiers run away?
Time can say nothing but I told you so.
If I could tell you, I would let you know.
(If I Could Tell You by W H Auden)
Traditional poetry forms that require the repetition of one or more lines include the villanelle, the kyrielle, the quatern, the triolet, the pantoum (see also here) and the rondeau redouble (which looks really difficult, has four refrain lines and might also appear in a future MTB article!)
The prompt.
Today’s prompt is to explore the use of repetition in poetry. You might want to try one of the traditional forms linked above, you might want to invent your own form that uses repetition, or you might want to write in free verse using repetition to emphasise emotion, highlight your theme etc. The choice is yours … smiles.
Here’s what to do now:
• Write your poem and post it to your blog.
• Add a link to your poem via the ‘Mr Linky’ below.
• This opens a new screen where you’ll enter your information, and where you also choose links to read. Once you have pasted your poem’s blog URL and entered your name, click Submit. Don’t worry if you don’t see your name right away.
• Read and comment on other people’s work to let them know it’s being read.
• Share your work and that of your fellow poets via your favourite social media platforms.
• Above all – have fun!
Image: Bird Fish by M C Escher (from wikiart.org)
Welcome, welcome, welcome! (Did you see what I did there … smiles)
It’s great to be back behind the bar; looking forward to some great poetry and some grreat chat.
ah – it’s good to see you behind the bar tony – and with a great prompt – repetition can be used in such effective ways
just listened to the psalms on my bikeride to work this morning and the part “his love endures forever” in psalm 136 repeats about a hundred times – and stuck with me the whole day… how cool is that….smiles
If you don’t remember anything else about that Psalm, you’ll never forget that God’s love endures forever.
Repetition can be used in so many ways … I’m looking forward to seeing what people come up with.
Love this prompt, Tony. I find repetition invading my poetry from time-to-time. It really helps to drive home a point. I can’t help but think of Poe when I see this device.
I’m not as familiar with his work as perhaps I should be. There’s so much to read and so little time.
hey good to see you tony…and nice article…i am glad you covered a wide range…i use repetition as needed…i did a song for poetics on tuesday which included a whole two stanza refrain…only a few lines this time…and structural repetitions…
Thanks Brian … I didn’t want to give too tight a prompt. What I’m hoping is that people will explore the various effects that considered use of repetition can have in their work.
I like this kind of prompt, Tony…..gives the writer a lot of options.
Fascinating premise/prompt today, this morning, this afternoon, tonight, Tony; comparing poetics to music, with refrains & chorus leaving us with something to hum whistle, or warble. The human brain remembers something much longer after repetition has been experienced–it is the basis for memorization, or recall. Often I do listing, or repeat the same word to align sentences, or stanzas–and I never really considered the influence of music on my work. Had fun with this one, sir.
You certainly weren’t pulling any punches in your piece, Glenn. Repetition certainly helps to cement things in our minds or to reinforce the point(s) we’re trying to make.
As for the poetry/music premise; for me poetry is like songwriting where there is no tune to carry the words, which means the words have to all the work themselves.
Hi, hi, hi! Great prompt, Tony… Repetition and poetry def go hand-in-hand; like Victoria said, it helps drive home a point… it’s also my favorite kind of poetry to hear recited.
Poems with strong refrains are naturals for performance; you can even get the audience to join in.
ha. just be ready for when they do…cause some crowds can be pretty raucous…and it will throw you off your game…smiles.
lol…
Hey Tony. You’re so COOL! Love the prompt. Have two poems in mind and haven’t written either. Hopefully I will get one up in time. Cheers to all! Writing is always a challenge for me. Here’s hoping I find something.
Hi Gay. It’s a long, long time since anyone described me as cool … smiles
I also find that a line repeated numerous times (as a sort of refrain at predictable points), it really emphasizes a stanza when the poet chooses to NOT repeat that refrain when the reader/listener is expecting it.
That’s a great point Brian. You can get the same effect by altering the refrain too.
On another “note”…I thought it was interesting the terms you used for music note lengths. I have never heard those terms, despite the fact that I took piano lessons for most of my childhood. I wonder if those are European terms? (We use whole note, half note, quarter note, eighth, etc. Always cool to learn new words 🙂
we have breves, semi-breves, minims, crotchets, quavers, semi-quavers, demisemi-quavers etc 🙂
Yes, these are the original terms which we use as well. I tried to do a couple of musical bits in mine using french time names. Enjoyed using repetition.Yes I did enjoy using repetition . Am I repeating myself? (chortles) Thank you Tony for a fun prompt .
def … or like gabriellas where she changed the refrain line from the first line in the stanza to the last line in her final stanza.
Thank you for the mention, Brian!
smiles…not only do i read…but i remember…smiles.
So do I! I think…
when i think about some of our conversations in paris – i would think you do remember well gabriella
Oooh, looks like a great prompt, Tony–looking forward to giving it a whirl today.
Looking forward to reading your response … smiles
Great prompt, Tony!
Thanks Freya … just off to read your response.
Nice prompt, Tony. Repetition is really a great technique. I hope my poem will make you laugh. I was in the mood for a humorous approach.
You sure made me smile … 🙂
But….but…but…but you didn’t leave a comment. ?????
I thought I had … must have pressed the wrong button 😦
Thanks, Tony! And, ha, I agree some women have these characteristics as well! Smiles.
haha…true… smiles
I think it’s the repition in our favorite song that “catches ” us – how it returns to the core melody. This was really informative – I think as valuable as the pice on slant.
One who masters repition… prosodymite? ( sorry, I couldn’t help the bad pun )
The chorus and the riff are the most important parts of a song; in a poem with a refrain it is the refrain that is the key. The more the refrain is repeaed, the stronger it needs to be.
good nite – good nite – good nite… bedtime for me… see ya tomorrow morning…
Schlaf gut, liebe Claudia
sleep well c….
Last baseball game of the year for my son…off to the field…be back to catch up in a few hours….
Hope he has a good one
Repeat is the trick of the heart beat beat. (just thought of that) Good luck everyone! 🙂
In poems with a refrain/rentrement it is that part of the poem that is its beating heart.
🙂
Chose the reps in a Ghazal.
Will be round to read soon …
This is great Tony. Brings to mind the great repetition of Dr. Seuss poetry, at least to me. May have to give this a go. 🙂
Dr Seuss does repetition really. really well 🙂
Poetic ear worms! But fun.
All together now; One fish, two fish, Red fish, blue fish … smiles
Indeed!
I like to use repetitions in my poems and often resort to the device. I enjoyed reading how others had used it in their poems. Nice prompt, Tony!
Strangely, it’s not something I do a lot … unless I’m writing to a form that requires repetition. But it’s fun reading how other poets make use of their refrains …
OK folks, it’s almost dark here, so I guess I should go and get some sleep. I’ve really enjoyed the responses so far … and I’ll be back out on the trail tomorrow.
rest well…and nice job tonight tony…
got a little catching up to do…just got home….we won 13-2…but cole took a bat to the knee…monitoring…may need a trip to the hospital before our night is out….
i hope it’s nothing serious!
thanks man…we iced it all night after the game and gave him motrin…image its not going to feel too good in the morning…the swelling seems to be stable…and he’s very tender…think we’ll wait til morning to see….
I tend to subconsciously rely on repetition throughout most of my work. But thanks to your prompt, I really focused on it, and it helped me unblock a poem i’ve been kicking around for a few weeks! It’s not perfect, but at least I have a draft to beat-up on! Thanks for this!
hey always great to unblock on thats been stuck…nicely writ barry…
That’s a real result, Barry. Glad to have been a catalyst … smiles
good morning…. have a full day with loads of meetings ahead and for the moment managed to return comments at least – will be back in the evening to read some more…
happy friday everyone!!
well that will save you time…returning comments…amazes me how poets have time to write 2 poems to a prompt and cant even return visits…
Thanks for nice prompt Tony..want to smile today 🙂
Hmm – probably best to avoid my entry then … smiles
Thanks, Tony. I very much enjoyed this. I chose the free verse option.
PS It is now very late at night, so I defer reading others until the morning.
Sleep well, Rosemary
I like the way you write the prompts, Tony. I always learn something about poetry (and here, music, too). I appreciate the effort you put in.
Well, I have a little silly response which I hope meets the bar. 🙂
Thanks Imelda. I have fun researcing and writing these articles. Am on the trail now, so I’ll be round by your place later.
Tony loved your prompt. You have also given a lot of information which made this even more interesting..thanks for sharing..I have tried triolet here..and as music is in my blood..smiles..it just took the form of poem here:)
good afternoon arathi…smiles.
Enjoyed your response Arathi; glad you gained from reading this article … smiles
I didn’t believe you could say things about repetition I didn’t know, but Surprise! I’ll need to practice some of these techniques. For now, I give you some breathe from a mountain hoping that it will speak to you.
smiles… always something new to learn as long as we live… i love this…will be over in a bit..
Loved your poem, Susan. I could sense how proud the mountain is of simply being a mountain.
it’s crazy late here already and i had a crazy long day….catching up…
Saturday morning in Scotland; time to make the final few stops on the trail. Then I need to tidy up the bar, ready for our next host.
Thanks to everyone who joined in for your poems, your visits to each other and your encouragement. Until next time …
Poo. Missed the cut-off.
http://jcosmonewbery2.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/719-i-awoke-one-day.html
No worries – I’m just off to read 🙂
i am sure if you visit others a few may show up your way…
Shall do. Saturday night is for family.
i hear you. we spent 5 hours playing laser tag and roller skating…worn out…
A little late.. and the bar is empty… and 50 entries… the weather finally brought us back… not so much the rain as the cold winds… (it feels like winter in those arctic winds)… I loved this prompt.. and I love to use repetitions…
I missed Mr Linky again – sigh, never mind. So, to repeat, sigh, that is the theme. 🙂
http://roslynrosssmallstones.blogspot.com/2014/06/you-sigh-too-much.html